Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:45:43 -0800 From: Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> To: David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH: libc]Re: gnome on current Message-ID: <20021031054542.A51595@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021031083910.GA21482@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:39:10AM -0800 References: <20021030234026.M22480-100000@herring.nlsystems.com> <3DC07094.F67F5C66@mindspring.com> <20021030180238.A7388@FreeBSD.org> <20021031083910.GA21482@dragon.nuxi.com>
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* De: David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org> [ Data: 2002-10-31 ] [ Subjecte: Re: [PATCH: libc]Re: gnome on current ] > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 06:02:38PM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote: > > Considering that I built the same applications and ran the same applications > > fine a while ago, and we've had a binutils upgrade, and things don't break > > on other systems, I'm inclined to assume there are linker bugs afoot, and > > all the other speculative stuff seems to be based on misunderstandings or > > bad information. > > Huh? Your statement is rather speculative stuff. Other systems (say > Linux) are using the same linker we are. Please speculate less. Please > grab an older ld and try to prove your speculation. It's deductive. Other systems are using similar library setups, in terms of weak vs. strong systems, and some of those are very well supported by GNOME by a commercial vendor, or will be if not now for GNOME2. I'm running GNOME2 right now that was built about two weeks before the last binutils upgrade, which had about 900 lines of ChangeLog entries associated with it. The symbol strength in libc and libc_r has not changed similarly in that time. I was just throwing my speculation based on my experiences with what is working, trying to keep in mind what has changed in the mean time, and what is involved with what's going on. Which Linux distributions have the symbol strength as we do, have libXThrStub in their link lines, -and- are using the same binutils as us? I'm not saying that has to be it, I'm saying given what I'm writing this reply on/inside, I'm saying "I doubt dfr's insistance on breaking non libc_r.so thread libraries being the only thing is seeming more and more wrong, as I ldd every binary I'm currently running." juli. -- Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org http://people.FreeBSD.org/~jmallett/ | Support my FreeBSD hacking! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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