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Date:      Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:41:13 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
To:        Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Is FreeBSD more secure than Windows NT or Windows 2000?
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107211838110.7739-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20010721152257.O76974-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org>

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Huh?

I didn't think my previous message was offensive to anyone, no?  Maybe
people ought to learn to read the messages with complete attention before
start throwing flames at each other!  Or even consider reading the
follow ups.....


Sung N. Cho





On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Lamont Granquist wrote:

>
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote:
> > Simply reinstalling Windows NT will not let you read someone else's
> > file.
>
> yeah, so just rip the drive out, stick it into a FBSD box and mount it
> using NTFS.
>
> the "security" feature of NT where it tries to make sure that you have a
> login on the box to be able to do anything is really, really annoying.  I
> managed to lock myself out of my laptop (switched from domain to workgroup
> and lost my cached domain credentials) and didn't have a local admin
> password and couldn't fucking change the password.  It was, of course,
> more than trivial to dual boot into FBSD and mount the partition under
> NTFS and get at all my files.  But there's no tools out there to hack the
> new active directory passwords and the tools for hacking the old SAM files
> didn't work on W2K.  So, the reportcard on W2K security in this way is
> that it gets a big F- on security *and* gets a big F- on administrative
> utility.  FreeBSD at least acknowledges that you don't have any security
> when you're on the console and lets you do administrative tasks with the
> proper incantations.
>
> and this isn't appropriate for freebsd-stable.  take your trolling
> elsewhere please.
>
> > Now I think that's being secure all the way.
>
> you have no clue about security, go away.
>
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