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Date:      Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:52:58 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Evan Champion <evanc@synapse.net>, staylor@mrynet.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@mrynet.com
Subject:   Re: Dropped from ALL freebsd lists?!?
Message-ID:  <19971226135258.52813@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.971225185221.18544B-100000@current1.whistle.com>; from Julian Elischer on Thu, Dec 25, 1997 at 07:00:11PM -0800
References:  <199712260237.SAA15647@hub.freebsd.org> <Pine.BSF.3.95.971225185221.18544B-100000@current1.whistle.com>

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On Thu, Dec 25, 1997 at 07:00:11PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
>
>> Evan Champion wrote:
>>>
>>> to be unsubscribed for one bad day -- without any notice that you were
>>> unsubscribed, I might add -- seems a bit much.  I mean, bounce for 3 days,
>>> and definitely boot the person, but for one day I don't see the reason for
>>> it.
>>
>> 	i am sorry that you lost mail, but my responsibilility is to
>> 	all the subscribers and our mail-relays.  no point in
>> 	sending mail that i have reason to believe will bounce.
>> 	it just slows mail delivery for everyone else.
> Evan
> there is a definite difference between a crashed mail server
> (in which case the mail will wait quietly somewhere for delivery)
> and a server that spams the list with 3 dozen annoying messages.
>
> remember also that it may have been a 15 minute stuffup on your part
> but the slow and tortuous delivery of mail to some parts of the world mean
> that people were getting these messages over a period of hours.

> it's possible that jmb was a bit quick, but that's the luck of the
> draw and really it's a judgement call by him.  We have to support
> him on this, becasue can you imagine how the list would look if he
> didn't do it?

Good summary.
 
> it might be a good idea if there was  amailing list for peple removed,
> that sent 1 message per day for 2 weeks or so, saying that they were
> removed..

Good idea.  jmb, what do you think?

Greg



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