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Date:      Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:00:06 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Harti Brandt <hartmut.brandt@dlr.de>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>, freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Change the executing of a 0-byte file to be an error...
Message-ID:  <20050610135808.J615@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de>
In-Reply-To: <p06210261becf2c5486a5@[128.113.24.47]>
References:  <p06210260beced2897aba@[128.113.24.47]> <20050610111103.GE14221@submonkey.net> <p06210261becf2c5486a5@[128.113.24.47]>

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

GAD>At 12:11 PM +0100 6/10/05, Ceri Davies wrote:
GAD>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
GAD>>  >
GAD>> >     If a file is empty and executable, that empty file can be
GAD>>  >    executed without generating any error.
GAD>> 
GAD>> Are you sure?  It seems to be a function of the shell more than
GAD>> anything; the transcript below does exactly the same on both
GAD>> FreeBSD 4-STABLE and Solaris 8:
GAD>> 
GAD>> $ sh
GAD>> $ PS1='sh$ '
GAD>> sh$ touch empty ; chmod +x empty
GAD>> sh$ ./empty
GAD>> sh$ echo $?
GAD>> 0
GAD>> sh$ PS1='zsh$ ' zsh
GAD>> zsh$ zsh
GAD>> zsh$ ./empty
GAD>> zsh: exec format error: ./empty
GAD>> zsh$
GAD>
GAD>Well, zsh can certainly add whatever processing it likes, but my main
GAD>interest is what routines like 'exec()' will do with the file.  In
GAD>particular, I'm concerned with what happens when either `make' or `sh'
GAD>execute some 0-byte file, because those are commands which will be
GAD>doing the most command-executing in the process of `make buildworld'.
GAD>
GAD>I'll admit I did not notice that zsh made that check, as I only checked
GAD>with `sh', `bash', and (inadvertently) `make'.  It might be that the
GAD>kernel is already doing the right thing, and what I actually need to
GAD>change is `sh' and `make' instead of something in the kernel.  I'm
GAD>certainly willing to figure out what needs to be changed, but I
GAD>thought I should first see if there are any reasons that I should not
GAD>make such a change in the first place.

make either uses a shell to execute a command or it uses execl() 
(depending whether you're in -j or -B mode and whether the line contains 
shell metacharacters or builtins), so when execl() does the right thing 
and the shell too, there is nothing to change in make.

harti



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