Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:57:21 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PC Card, gone in 13 Message-ID: <20200819005721.GA80463@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqpLiT9KOo5QJuwLgtw__5aU-%2BZUx-U6Pp4_vC_Rcjvdw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CANCZdfqpLiT9KOo5QJuwLgtw__5aU-%2BZUx-U6Pp4_vC_Rcjvdw@mail.gmail.com>
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--rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 1:20:56 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > As discussed in the past, it's time to remove PC Card support. Not CardBus > support, but PC Card support. this is the16-bit PCMCIA stuff from long ago. > It relied on many 16-bit drivers that have since been removed from the > tree. What remains is a shadow of its former self. There used to be two > dozen or so drivers. This has dwindled down to 9, none of which are > especially relevant (and all of which have replacement hardware available). I still have an old machine with PCMCIA hardware. > The drivers to be removed: an, cmx, wi, ng_bt3c Notably wi. > an and wi are old 802.11b drivers that are no longer relevant. A lot depends on the hardware, of course. It's certainly relevant to my old Dell machine. > There's no systems that FreeBSD supports that are 16-bit only PC > Card systems. I suppose that depends on what you mean by "supports". However: these old machines all have (by modern standards) tiny memory. My Dell machine has 256 MB RAM, so modern versions of FreeBSD just won't run on it. More to the point, the wi driver has been broken for years, so clearly nobody cares about it. I'm in agreement with removing the support. If anybody (including myself) really wants to run this old stuff, they can use an earlier release of FreeBSD. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAl88ePEACgkQIubykFB6QiM/GACfcJwTxecUNrxdvu/+UoKM/NVd lGcAoLBnwvfkfG6dEFSTJeX3/giC8BdQ =ONIK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ--
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