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Date:      Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
To:        mgraffam@idsi.net
Cc:        alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: relative alpha speed
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990903084838.jdp@polstra.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9909030019040.5562-100000@albert.critical.net>

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mgraffam@idsi.net wrote:
> 
> What generation of Alpha are you using?

    EB164
    Digital AlphaPC 164LX 533 MHz, 531MHz
    8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
    CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1<BWX>
    OSF PAL rev: 0x1000100020116
    real memory  = 132276224 (129176K bytes)
    avail memory = 124076032 (121168K bytes)

> It's not fair to compare anything but the A #1 newest Alpha to a PII
> 500.

To me it seems perfectly fair to compare an $N Intel system to an $N
Alpha system, regardless of anything else.

> Alphas tend to cost more, so people have a tendancy to compare a $500
> Alpha to a $500 Intel box.. if you do this, Intel machines will
> consistently out perform the Alpha. 
> 
> The Multia is a good example. A few months ago, a bare multia would run
> you about $90-100.. and gives weak performance compared to the P5 233 MMX
> that you can get for $100.. but the Multia was born around the time that
> 486/66's were coming out. The proper comparison is to compare the 21064
> to a 80486, not to a P5. 

I disagree.  The proper comparison is by price/performance ratio.  If
I can get better performance from an $N Intel system than from an $N
Alpha system, how can you say the Alpha is better?

One thing I should have mentioned before, though, is that it's
entirely possible that the disappointing -mieee performance on the
Alpha is due to inferior code generation by gcc.  Maybe that can be
improved in future versions of the compiler.

John
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  John Polstra                                               jdp@polstra.com
  John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.                        Seattle, Washington USA
  "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."        -- Nora Ephron



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