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Date:      Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:36:59 +0930
From:      Wincent Colaiuta <wincentcolaiuta@mac.com>
To:        Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Wow (or, How Theo should have handled it)
Message-ID:  <53E21546-8983-11D6-BE6B-003065C60B4C@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <200206261919.g5QJJLLI018466@cvs.openbsd.org>

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El Thursday, 27 June, 2002, a las 04:49  AM, Theo de Raadt escribió:

>> * Theo de Raadt (deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) [020626 12:02]:
>>> We also did 5600 lines of further security auditing work over the last
>>> week.  We're fairly convinced that some of the things we changed are
>>> relevant as well.  ie.  more holes.
>>>
>>> And that is commited in 3.4
>>
>> Theo,
>>
>>   When will we see an advisory and/or patches for older versions 
>> regarding
>> the other holes that you have uncovered?
>
> You won't.
>
> I've barely slept in a week.
>
> So many of you are being totally unreasonable people.

Great. That's just what I want... a rushed 3.4 release which contains 
5600 lines of code "audited" by a team of sleep-deprived zombies. 
(joking... I do appreciate your efforts, Theo).

Seriously, Theo, the best thing you could've done would have been to 
fully disclose the original bug in the challenge/response code and the 
one-line fix (turn off challenge/response auth), and told people two 
things: firstly, that patches were being worked on; and secondly, that 
3.4 was on the way soon and that it would be desirable to upgrade to 
that and activate priv separation so as to better cope with future 
potential holes.

Unfortunately, the way you DID handle it created a furore and upset an 
awful lot of people who spent hours and hours undergoing a rushed and 
complicated upgrade procedure on dozens or even hundreds of boxes, when 
they probably would've preferred to apply the one-line workaround and 
upgrade to 3.4 in a more reasonable time-frame (ie. an orderly, planned 
upgrade; not an rushed, emergency one). To make matters worse many of 
these people were using a version of OpenSSH that did not contain the 
vulnerability (remember, this is a FreeBSD list here).

Thanks once again for your work, Theo. I just wish things had gone a 
little bit more smoothly!

Regards
Wincent


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