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Date:      Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:39:12 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
To:        Pegasus Mc Cleaft <ken@mthelicon.com>
Cc:        mj@feral.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Lyndon Nerenberg \(VE6BBM/VE7TFX\)" <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
Subject:   Re: Adding disk firmware programming capability to camcontrol
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On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Pegasus Mc Cleaft <ken@mthelicon.com> wrot=
e:
>>> The linux hdparm program is so paranoid about this that you have to use
>>> extra arguments like "--yes-really-destroy-my-disk-drive" to do this.
>>
>>I concur. Loudly. =A0The ability to brick your hardware is just too
>>large to not make people go through the "I tell you three times"
>>dance. =A0It's not like people will do this often enough that the
>>pain will be fatal. =A0And if it is, they ought to be bright enough to
>>know how to automate the process.
>>
>>--lyndon
>
> Hi Lyndon and group,
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I tend to disagree that there should be such argument anti=
cs
> employed to protect an operation such as this. Being root should be the o=
nly
> protection needed (of course, that's only my opinion). I don=92t want to =
have
> to look up in a man page what magic token I need to add to prove to the
> utility that I understand the consequences of what I am about to do. I
> personally wouldn't mind a simple "Are you sure?" if the magic token is n=
ot
> added on the command line, however.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0To me, the only difference between borking a drive because=
 of bad
> firmware and typing "rm -rf *" from root is about =A340. =A0You still los=
e at
> least a day rebuilding/restoring everything.

    Unfortunately not backs up their systems on a regular basis.
    Having an interactive prompt with a loud warning like many vendor
tools provide today with a non-interactive override option is
sufficient.
    That being said, camcontrol doesn't understand the concept of
interactive vs non-interactive use, so it seems like its design would
need to be redone if you go this route.
Thanks,
-Garrett



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