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Date:      Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:38:40 -0700
From:      Don Wilde <dwilde1@ibm.net>
To:        Remy NONNENMACHER <remy@synx.com>
Cc:        "Karl M. Joch" <k.joch@kmjeuro.com>, "freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: salesman is thinking.....
Message-ID:  <35376970.24006442@ibm.net>
References:  <Pine.A32.3.91.980417091621.10142P-100000@rs1>

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Remy NONNENMACHER wrote:
> 

> This may seems a 'back to the roots' call but, sincerely, do you really
> believe it is time to compete with the W95 like integration of Linux ?
> Do you think that requesting all GPL products developpers to provide a setup
> script for FBSD is possible ?
> 
I think we need to do that as part of porting. Really, most have sample
scripts, all we need to do is write something that will plug in our new
server's domain name and IP and  make the script active. That's a little
thing, but it would add immeasurably to the instant usability of
FreeBSD. Every consultant wants to look good _quickly_ in a client's
office, and having the @#$!! thing come up saying "can't find file!" is
silly.

> What FBSD needs, as a server box, is a mind change. Jordan told us what
> we *ARE* doing. History predicts that we *CAN'T* compete on GUI's. Time
> to imagine something new.
> 
I agree. I only suggested setting up a 'port-driven' GUI/Personal
Station because I thought it would be a quick (read minimum effort)
answer to the PC wannatryit's we get queries from. I _like_ the CLI,
although I'm for 18 years a programmer. BSD is driven by pipes and
shells and text files, to obfuscate that would be to destroy it. What we
need to do is to make our script tools complete and orthogonal. For
example, aduser does all you want with adding, but where is rmuser?
That's what we need to do, find ll those little gotchas.

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