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Date:      Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:04:41 -0500 (EST)
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@hotjobs.com>
To:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   how to use pine and -current
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9810081048280.292-100000@bright.fx.genx.net>

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when deleting more than 20 pieces of mail over an NFS mounted mail file
using PINE the suggested method of doing this is:

1) start up another xterm
2) run sync
3) delete mail

why? well whatever is causing lockups (2 monday, one last night and one
just a few minutes ago, and numerous one last week) is still around

after lockup you can ping the machine fine, you can telnet in however all
that happens is the connection is made but no repsonce is given.

i'm going to tote another computer in here somehow with a null modem cable
and get a back trace, or something.

btw, this problem seems to have started about the time of Bill Paul's last
commits to the xl0 driver, but i'm not sure.  funny how i can ping, but
nothing else.

this is on a kernel as of cvsup about 1 hour ago 10am EST, but it's been
a problem for the last 2 weeks for me.

again, sorry about no backtrace it's just that this is my work machine,
and i don't have time to play doctor here.  i'm just posting this so
people are aware _something_ isn't right.  also note i'm NOT complaining,
just making some people aware of problems i've been having with -current,
if i wasn't ok with these problems i'd be running 2.2.x.

btw, it seems VERY specific to the way PINE deletes mail as i compile a
LOT of code over these same NFS mounts with hardly a problem.


thanks,
Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com
-- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD.
-- http://www.freebsd.org/                        3.0-current

-- kernel config file

# bright

machine		"i386"
cpu		"I686_CPU"
ident		bright
maxusers	80

options		INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE     # Include this file in kernel           

options		SOFTUPDATES
#options		MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options		INET			#InterNETworking
options		FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options		NFS			#Network Filesystem
options		MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options		"CD9660"		#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options		"CD9660_ROOT"		#CD-ROM usable as root device
options		FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
#options		NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device
options		PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options		"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options		SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device
options		UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
#options		FAILSAFE		#Be conservative
options		USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options		VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
#options		DEVFS
options		MFS

options     "P1003_1B"
options     "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
options     "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"

config		kernel	root on wd0

controller	isa0
controller	eisa0
controller	pci0

controller  pnp0                                                                
device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 vector pcmintr

controller  ppbus0
controller	ppc0	at isa? port ? tty irq 7 vector ppcintr
controller  vpo0  at ppbus?
device      nlpt0 at ppbus?
device      plip0 at ppbus?
device      ppi0  at ppbus?

controller	fdc0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
# Unless you know very well what you're doing, leave ft0 at drive 2, or
# remove the line entirely if you don't need it.  Trying to configure
# it on another unit might cause surprises, see PR kern/7176.
tape		ft0	at fdc0 drive 2

options		"CMD640"	# work around CMD640 chip deficiency
controller	wdc0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0x7fff7fff vector wdintr 
disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive 0
disk		wd1	at wdc0 drive 1

controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 flags 0x7fff7fff vector wdintr
disk		wd2	at wdc1 drive 0
disk		wd3	at wdc1 drive 1

options		ATAPI		#Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
options		ATAPI_STATIC	#Don't do it as an LKM
device		wcd0		#IDE CD-ROM
device		wfd0		#IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120)

controller	scbus0

device		da0

device		sa0

device		pass0

device		cd0	#Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 1 vector scintr

device		npx0	at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr

#
# Laptop support (see LINT for more options)
#
device		apm0    at isa?	disable	flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management

device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 vector siointr
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr
device		sio2	at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr
device		sio3	at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr

device		mse0	at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr

device		psm0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr

# Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
# this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
# Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
# revision 1.20 of this file.
device de0
device xl0

pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	snp	4
pseudo-device	bpfilter	4
pseudo-device	vn	4
pseudo-device	sl	1
pseudo-device	ppp	1
pseudo-device	tun	1
pseudo-device	pty	256
pseudo-device	gzip		# Exec gzipped a.out's

# KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
# This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
# the costs of each syscall.
options		KTRACE		#kernel tracing

# This provides support for System V shared memory.
#
options		SYSVSHM
options		SYSVSEM
options		SYSVMSG

#options		USER_LDT
#options		"VM86"

options     IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options     IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE      #print information about
options     IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default
options     IPDIVERT    #divert sockets



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