Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:36:12 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht <lists@cmplx.uk> To: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd Message-ID: <afIlbEf1NGIJkko9@cmplx.uk> In-Reply-To: <351d3db5-19d0-4652-a44e-b029a8105937@yahoo.com> References: <adTq6tMP4GWQS35e@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aeedOZ7VcQAOsQCV@cmplx.uk> <3847a70c-f2d8-4c4a-a5f0-56a4a90168b0@yahoo.com> <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk> <aek7L4X26D0zQTU-@amaryllis.le-fay.org> <aenUvAuAGC8SgpKi__40328.3866167598$1776932059$gmane$org@cmplx.uk> <700c882a-ae24-403a-a8e0-5ceffed569ae@yahoo.com> <aeslKG5UCOmV0ROY@cmplx.uk> <351d3db5-19d0-4652-a44e-b029a8105937@yahoo.com>
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 03:10:07AM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
> >>
> >> So the conversion to pkgbase started from a pnon-pkgbase 15.0 to produce
> >> a pkgbase 15.0?
> >
> > Not sure, maybe I never converted.
> > What does it mean to have a "pkgbase" system?
>
> It seems that you have some sort of partial update to pkgbase.
>
> What do the following show:
>
> # pkg -v
>
> # pkg repos -d
>
> # pkg repos -e
>
> # pkg info FreeBSD-\*
>
> That last could produce over 500 lines.
$ pkg -v
2.6.2
$ pkg repos -d
$ pkg repos -e
FreeBSD-ports: {
url : "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/quarterly",
enabled : yes,
priority : 0,
mirror_type : "SRV",
signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS",
fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg"
}
FreeBSD-ports-kmods: {
url : "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/kmods_quarterly_0",
enabled : yes,
priority : 0,
mirror_type : "SRV",
signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS",
fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg"
}
FreeBSD-base: {
url : "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0",
enabled : yes,
priority : 0,
mirror_type : "SRV",
signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS",
fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkgbase-15"
}
$ pkg info FreeBSD-\*
FreeBSD-at-15.0
FreeBSD-audit-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-blocklist-15.0p3
FreeBSD-bootloader-15.0
FreeBSD-bzip2-15.0
FreeBSD-bzip2-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-caroot-15.0
FreeBSD-certctl-15.0
FreeBSD-clibs-15.0
FreeBSD-clibs-lib32-15.0
FreeBSD-cron-15.0
FreeBSD-ctf-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-devd-15.0
FreeBSD-devmatch-15.0p2
FreeBSD-dhclient-15.0
FreeBSD-efi-tools-15.0
FreeBSD-fetch-15.0
FreeBSD-firmware-iwm-15.0
FreeBSD-flua-15.0
FreeBSD-fwget-15.0
FreeBSD-geom-15.0
FreeBSD-hyperv-tools-15.0
FreeBSD-kerberos-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-kernel-man-15.0
FreeBSD-libarchive-15.0
FreeBSD-libbsdstat-15.0
FreeBSD-libcasper-15.0
FreeBSD-libexecinfo-15.0
FreeBSD-libldns-15.0
FreeBSD-libmagic-15.0
FreeBSD-libucl-15.0
FreeBSD-libyaml-15.0
FreeBSD-locales-15.0
FreeBSD-mandoc-15.0
FreeBSD-natd-15.0
FreeBSD-ncurses-15.0
FreeBSD-ncurses-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-newsyslog-15.0
FreeBSD-nuageinit-15.0
FreeBSD-openssl-15.0p2
FreeBSD-openssl-lib-15.0p2
FreeBSD-periodic-15.0
FreeBSD-pkg-bootstrap-15.0
FreeBSD-powerd-15.0
FreeBSD-ppp-15.0
FreeBSD-rc-15.0
FreeBSD-rescue-15.0p5
FreeBSD-resolvconf-15.0
FreeBSD-runtime-15.0p6
FreeBSD-set-minimal-15.0
FreeBSD-syslogd-15.0
FreeBSD-tcpd-15.0
FreeBSD-ufs-15.0
FreeBSD-ufs-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-utilities-15.0p1
FreeBSD-vi-15.0
FreeBSD-vt-data-15.0
FreeBSD-wpa-15.0
FreeBSD-xz-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-zfs-15.0
FreeBSD-zfs-lib-15.0
FreeBSD-zlib-15.0
FreeBSD-zoneinfo-15.0
$
>
> > How can I check?
> >
> > BTW, I noticed that my versions diverged somehow:
> >
> > # freebsd-version -kru
> > 15.0-RELEASE-p4
> > 15.0-RELEASE-p4
> > 15.0-RELEASE-p6
>
> This is what happens when one of the following is true:
>
> ) only the world had updates available, the kernel had no changes
> ) there were kernel updates that were not applied
>
> >
> >>
> >> Did you use https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pkgbasify to do the
> >> conversion (no matter which FreeBSD version was the starting point)?
> >
> > no
> >
> > Does this mean my system is *not* a pkgbase system?
>
> You appear to have at least some pkgbase packages installed, but
> possibly not an appropriate set of them.
yes, likely...
I get this:
# /home/as/pkgbasify.lua
Error: The system is already using pkgbase.
Pass --force to run pkgbasify anyway, for example to fix a partial conversion.
I don't remember invoking pkgbasify before.
should I --force it?
>
> > I.e. one must use pkgbasify, as per
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/pkgbase
> > to convert an non-pkgbase 15.0 to a pkgbase 15.0?
>
> For your conversion . . .
>
> Did you try to follow the steps of the "Manual initial setup", despite
> them being older than covering conversion for 15.0?
not yet
>
> Did you instead try one of the U[pgrades proedures (Minor vs. Major?)?
> "13 to 14"? "Building'?
>
I just followed the standard freebsd-update route from 14 to 15.
> >
> > I assumed that all I need is /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf
> > with ports, ports-kmods and FreeBSD-base.
>
> You had to use something that involved actual pkg commands in order to
> have the .pkgsave files generated. Merely having the configuration
> file(s) present would not cause that.
yes, I used "pkg upgrade", "pkg update", and the usual
"pkg clean", "pkg autoremove" after upgading to 15.0.
This upgraded all ports.
I got into problems only after "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal",
which I did after reading what Lexi Winter posted:
*quote*
if you do *not* have set-minimal installed (because you didn't install
with bsdinstall, or because you removed it after installation), you MUST
install the FreeBSD-pam package, otherwise you will no longer be able to
log into the system after updating.
*end quote*
Thank you
Anton
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