Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 15:47:38 -0500 (EST) From: Al <al@datazap.net> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: Minsoo Choo <minsoochoo0122@proton.me>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ppc <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: What's the plan for powerpc64 in FreeBSD 16 Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.2511261539520.27486@agnus.datazap.net> In-Reply-To: <202511261707.5AQH7N1u016543@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <CANCZdfrQthqYeGYD_9LRcH94JJZuF2%2BUxAqf7Lcoe6p5VzJf9g@mail.gmail.com> <NqfDArT7jTPoIyfcShDccomNhLR9YUp1_S6kjK_NKIaiQVy2QK4n2KdbZIKm9gqda9fLP62MYQA-N5KOkECydNd1ktiUUuepzOVwCX8thgY=@proton.me> <202511261707.5AQH7N1u016543@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2025, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2025 17:07:23 +0000 > From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> > To: Minsoo Choo <minsoochoo0122@proton.me> > Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, > "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: What's the plan for powerpc64 in FreeBSD 16 > > Minsoo Choo writes: > >> After reading replies, I still have questions why we should keep powerpc64be. > >> Second, regarding arguments about keeping big-endian support in codebase even >> if no one actually physically runs the code: >> This also applies to leaving 32-bit code (armv7) in tree for future >> compatibility. > > I think that is a bit of a leap, although in principle I agree. > > However, I am much less convinced that a relevant new 32 bit platform > will appear, than that somebody comes out with a 64 BE platform. > > Bit-rot is a thing, and unless we are willing to say "Screw anybody > silly enough to create BE platform now or in the future" we should > still guard against it. There is a number of new PowerPC 64 BE systems: A1222 Sam460 several versions Mirari (New PPC hardware) Also, https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/ I am also told you can still buy X5000s new.help
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