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Date:      Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:55:36 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org>
Cc:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Mike Karels <mike@karels.net>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon
Message-ID:  <20220921215536.886F9212@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd>
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In message <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd>, Shawn Webb writes:
> 
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:11:44PM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> >   Mike,
> >=20
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote:
> > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base.  I
> > M> think the client should remain, though.  I use it frequently, although
> > M> not on the telnet port.  ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a
> > M> perfectly reasonable usage.  I use it to download FreeBSD images often.
> >=20
> > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over nc(1)?
>
> I wonder if it would be worthwhile to hardlink telnet(1) to nc(1).

No. Though nc -t is supposed to be compatible with telnet, it is not. No 
sense fooling people into thinking nc, even with the -t argument, is the 
same as telnet. It is not and it will be the source of many PRs which will 
eventually waste developer's time making nc behave just like telnet does. 
It is better to simply move it to ports for those who absolutely need it.


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