Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 17:57:47 -0400 From: Shawn Webb <shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> Cc: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Mike Karels <mike@karels.net>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon Message-ID: <20220921215747.bpb2irggvq5bibog@mutt-hbsd> In-Reply-To: <20220921215536.886F9212@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <Yyt%2BEOM/Bnth88Xv@FreeBSD.org> <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd> <20220921215536.886F9212@slippy.cwsent.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:55:36PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20220921214546.426y6o4jpnsfsa2l@mutt-hbsd>, Shawn Webb writes: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 02:11:44PM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > > Mike, > > >=20 > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: > > > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. I > > > M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, although > > > M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a > > > M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images often. > > >=20 > > > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over nc(1)? > > > > I wonder if it would be worthwhile to hardlink telnet(1) to nc(1). > > No. Though nc -t is supposed to be compatible with telnet, it is not. No > sense fooling people into thinking nc, even with the -t argument, is the > same as telnet. It is not and it will be the source of many PRs which will > eventually waste developer's time making nc behave just like telnet does. > It is better to simply move it to ports for those who absolutely need it. Good points. Thanks for the info! -- Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAmMriNQACgkQ/y5nonf4 4fplaQ/9HxzKhFu+F0i+Tcooo7ZseI+j2Z1S2lOpKRO3fqRUGTXsAUE23x6l41+A xCELP5s4ZlJ12obzUVCYNjdPYFmPAQJ3n5H2ZM02REmEaWQCXa3W51ICBEjpl2E8 VFhT9e81OvE7LPdB0gOHfGAM3MOoj+ivTUrygxpTHWAxJM/CecgI3iDwHzkO6Idp XcraiOgsdtCjbVypd1EhXbWZ1vIvsjv5o4IlK2Tv3KridA/c0UI3tKNPjLK9Nokg zsaXwHUCvF8Aw8uHVooJIJ721jr3SJYEDwzuk/vAMpCYM9hLAAM/IxyIMwngHV8d w7C2sRyIiL14VV/NszfGg+7QDyY+DcElMfdONX5LpbHnTaTyhVmidG7Y2DYyNdMd HADwKFrDWcyJc5Z5L5cKqEgwmObcTeVigNRIDerk29CjCdUlMegtZkFQ4Qe9cJJJ TUCaHGk8GCxqAdb9T8xXQCt1ezruV51/rl2gg5DmvJEY8miBw+vT3IOUC95W82hk RqhxDhtgyuH5zAd6NjF12wZTdD2Vd2B3KomrcXjbXL6pyTFhDNeXWYKz1Tpup4ZW oo8vWn1MdDDwo2V0c7zCSXlkCbXS5Yp/Ovq94HJxNsSFJ10nNsMTFAy0M9p9Qli4 R3SNN11oNLdb57pnO3g8K9awg1zesAc9PZnzqjJfRnLVX/EvcUM= =WZT3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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