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Date:      Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:45:20 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami)
Cc:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@freebsd.org>, "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>, Josef Karthauser <joe@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/bin/ls extern.h ls.1 ls.c ls.h print.c 
Message-ID:  <200006031945.MAA09986@mass.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "03 Jun 2000 12:33:22 PDT." <vqcwvk6sgot.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> 

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> I'm not sure how we can use termcap or curses without mounting /usr.
> 
> Look, it does the job adequately on most terminals out there.  It
> doesn't work on some, but then it doesn't hurt either since you need
> an extra flag to invoke it anyway.
> 
> I'd like to talk with people who don't own an ANSI terminal *and* who
> want to have this functionality.

This is the linprocfs issue all over again.  This time, it's someone 
else's hobbyhorse, but it's the same basic item.

You simply DO NOT embed terminal-specific code into a user application.  
End of story.  Use curses, or don't do it at all.

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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