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Date:      Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:31:50 +1000
From:      Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Avermedia 507 TV
Message-ID:  <1208431910.16346.388.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200804170015.55565.danny@ricin.com>
References:  <448212670.20080414110259@masm.elcom.ru> <200804150131.00194.danny@ricin.com> <1208226986.16346.269.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <200804170015.55565.danny@ricin.com>

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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 00:15 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:36:26 Da Rock wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
> > > On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote:
> > > > On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote:
> > > > >> Hi, All.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use
> > > > >> saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv
> > > > >> runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> How to test tuner and drivers works or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get
> > > > > the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself.
> > > >
> > > > saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver
> > > > homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary
> > > > bsd-patche within distrib tarball
> > >
> > > I suspect your tuner (terratec?)  is not amongst the supported ones.
> >
> > Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally
> > supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly).
> 
> Avermedia is not a type or brand of tuner. They're a HW company that assemble 
> certain cards/sticks from parts such as tuners, decoders etc.
> 
> >
> > That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had
> 
> Saa driver is still available from purpe.com, but only from a direct download 
> link (there's no page anymore):
> 
> http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz
> 
> > no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled
> > with support for the driver, not the driver itself.
> 
> kbtv1 includes it also, for convenience, and because its needed for the saa 
> backend anyway (well, some header).
> 
> The saa driver only covers video and audio (I only use "shunted" audio with 
> kbtv, not real audio capture). Tuner support is all userspace (directly via 
> iic device). The generic tuner support that comes with the driver (as example 
> sort of) seems to indicate that this is for a class of tuners that has three 
> fixed bands and must be set to switch between it (as in Philips reference 
> design). TDA and MKn init require some extra iic babble.
> 
> Modern silicon tuners work differently and have quite different registers that 
> need to be set for tuning.

You'll have to excuse me presumption here (I'll normally read all
messages before adding to a thread), but you sound like a very good
source of info here. May I ask you if you can supply some references to
what you're posting here? I'd like to investigate this much further...

Also, I thought I read somewhere that firmware is used in most tuners.
Plus I found the linux drivers use firmware to make this work. Just a
thought.




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