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Date:      Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:55:32 +0530
From:      Saniya Maheshwari <saniya.mah@gmail.com>
To:        Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br>
Cc:        modulok@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Heating issues with FreeBSD on laptop
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[CCing Modulok whose reply (probably accidentally) reached me directly 
and not the mailing list]

Thank you both for your responses! I tried what you suggested but 
Powerd doesn't seem to resolve the issue. I already had it enabled

/etc/rc.conf:
powerd_enable="YES"

though not with the specific flags you mentioned

powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"

Even after setting the flags though, and restarting powerd / rebooting, 
I can still observe that slight distinctive warming/fan noise.

Is there anything else that might be causing this? I remember I once 
had the same issue with a Linux distro on this same laptop, and that 
was because this laptop has Intel integrated graphics along with a 
separate NVIDIA GPU and the correct drivers were not in place. Though 
that was when I was using a graphical environment, while on FreeBSD 
here I am currently just using the TTY. Therefore I initially assumed 
that this might not have anything to do with the warming.

Thanks again for your time.

Saniya

On Mon, Sep 26 2022 at 04:47:29 PM -0300 -0300, Mario Lobo 
<lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:40 PM Saniya Maheshwari 
> <saniya.mah@gmail.com <mailto:saniya.mah@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just installed FreeBSD on my laptop, and everything went smoothly, 
>> except one thing that my laptop seems to be a little warm and noisy 
>> (due to the fans) even when it's idle.
>> 
>> Following some steps on other forums, I tried the following:
>> 
>> $ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal'
>> 
>> This gives me an 'unknown oid' error.
>> 
>> $ sysctl -a | grep temp
>> 
>> This gives no results.
>> 
>> After running
>> 
>> # kldload coretemp
>> 
>> and retrying:
>> 
>> $ sysctl -a | grep temperature
>> 
>> I do get the CPU temperature values:
>> 
>> dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C
>> dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C
>> dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C
>> ...
>> 
>> All this is when the laptop is absolutely idle with just the shell 
>> running in the TTY. I can confirm that
>> 
>> # top
>> 
>> shows the same (CPU 100% idle).
>> 
>> I'm not sure what is going wrong and would be grateful for any help.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Saniya
> 
> Hi Saniya.
> 
> Have you tried inserting
> 
> powerd_enable="YES"
> powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"
> 
> in /etc/rc.conf? and issue:
> 
> service powerd start
> 
> --
> Mario Lobo
> http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br <http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br/>;
> FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!]


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<div id=3D"geary-body" dir=3D"auto"><div>[CCing Modulok whose reply (probab=
ly accidentally) reached me directly and not the mailing list]</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Thank you both for your responses! I tried what you suggested =
but Powerd doesn't seem to resolve the issue. I already had it enabled</div=
><div><br></div><div>/etc/rc.conf:</div><div>powerd_enable=3D"YES"</div><di=
v><br></div><div>though not with the specific flags you mentioned</div><div=
><br></div><div>powerd_flags=3D"-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"</div><=
div><br></div><div>Even after setting the flags though, and restarting powe=
rd / rebooting, I can still observe that slight distinctive warming/fan noi=
se.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there anything else that might be causing t=
his? I remember I once had the same issue with a Linux distro on this same =
laptop, and that was because this laptop has Intel integrated graphics alon=
g with a separate NVIDIA GPU and the correct drivers were not in place. Tho=
ugh that was when I was using a graphical environment, while on FreeBSD her=
e I am currently just using the TTY. Therefore I initially assumed that thi=
s might not have anything to do with the warming.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Thanks again for your time.</div><div><br></div><div>Saniya</div></div><div=
 id=3D"geary-quote" dir=3D"auto"><br>On Mon, Sep 26 2022 at 04:47:29 PM -03=
00 -0300, Mario Lobo &lt;lobo@bsd.com.br&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div>On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:40 =
PM Saniya Maheshwari &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:saniya.mah@gmail.com">saniya.mah=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D"m_-996564436095393930geary-body=
" dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I just installed FreeBSD o=
n my laptop, and everything went smoothly, except one thing that my laptop =
seems to be a little warm and noisy (due to the fans) even when it's idle.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Following some steps on other forums, I tried the =
following:</div><div><br></div><div>$ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal'</div><div><b=
r></div><div>This gives me an 'unknown oid' error.</div><div><br></div><div=
>$ sysctl -a | grep temp</div><div><br></div><div>This gives no results.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>After running</div><div><br></div><div># kldload cor=
etemp</div><div><br></div><div>and retrying:</div><div><br></div><div>$ sys=
ctl -a | grep temperature</div><div><br></div><div>I do get the CPU tempera=
ture values:</div><div><br></div><div>dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C</div><d=
iv>dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C</div><div>dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C</d=
iv><div>...</div><div><br></div><div>All this is when the laptop is absolut=
ely idle with just the shell running in the TTY. I can confirm that</div><d=
iv><br></div><div># top</div><div><br></div><div>shows the same (CPU 100% i=
dle).</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure what is going wrong and would b=
e grateful for any help.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Saniya<=
/div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Hi Saniya.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Have you tried inserting</div><div><br></div><div>powerd_enable=
=3D"YES"<br>powerd_flags=3D"-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"</div><div>=
<br></div><div>in /etc/rc.conf? and issue:</div><div><br></div><div>service=
 powerd start<br></div><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Mario Lobo<br><a href=3D"http://www.mallavoodoo.com=
.br" target=3D"_blank">http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br</a><br>FreeBSD since v=
ersion 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!]</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
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