Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:30:30 +1100 From: John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au> To: Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org> Cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc Message-ID: <20041129033030.GD25035@freebsd3.cimlogic.com.au> In-Reply-To: <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org> References: <200411290132.iAT1WAse056942@repoman.freebsd.org> <41AA850E.9010208@freebsd.org> <41AA86D1.7070105@freebsd.org>
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On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:17:53PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > For the past 1+ years I've recieved nothing but complaints from > developers who have told me that the beastie menu was silly, > unprofessional, annoying, and/or confusing. I originally created it > precisely because ACPI was causing significant problems. I was also > getting tired of telling people how to get 'bootverbose' set, so I > figured that a nice menu that took care of these problems would be a > good thing to have. I made it as non-obtrusive as possible; it responds > to the same keys and the same variables as the non-menu prompt, and it > delays the boot for exactly the same period of time. I liked it and I > had plans to make it more useful by allowing you to control the serial > console settings and have it search out and offer to boot alternate > kernels, but I have better things to do with my time that defend it and > tell people how to turn it off. > > For those who think that ease-of-use is important, please accept my > apologies. I thought the Beastie menu was useful/appropriate (I'm not into religion, so the beastie is just the image of FreeBSD to me). It's a shame that people grumble about things they can tweak - and don't tell me developers don't tweak! The bit about the serial console settings would have been very useful for me. Also the booting of alternate kernels, possibly including a test boot of an installed kernel before making if the permanently installed one. Whistle had a neat fallback kernel boot if I remember correctly. -- John Birrell
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