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Date:      Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:36:39 +0100
From:      j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BSD, .Net comments - any reponse to this reasoning?
Message-ID:  <20010703133639.E35349@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
In-Reply-To: <3B41B4A9.F95FE1FF@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:03:53AM -0700
References:  <20010630174743.A85268@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3B41B4A9.F95FE1FF@mindspring.com>

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| The problem is that it's not a commons unless it is
| egalitarian in permitting everyone equal rights to it;
| the GPL fails this test, since you can not use it in
| a commercial product, unless you "pay" with your source
| code that you add.

Ah, good point.

| I've seen people suggest that reference implementations
| should be GPL'ed before, as well.  The problem with that
| approach is that unless the reference work can be used
| in a product, it will not drive a standard.  For products

What about ReiserFS, JFS, and the recently released IBM Java source code for
it's servers?  I forget the details behind the IBM server,but several
companies have done this: "Here OS community, work on this" or "Here is our
top-secret code, play with it all you want, but we keep the results."

| funding is drawn: corporations.  I was really very
| disappointed with the NSA security extensions to Linux,
| since it made the code inherently a derivative work of
| the Linux kernel, and thus GPL'ed.

I can almost understand Mundie's tirade, at least on this specific point,
that public funds were used to develop something that cannot be used
commercially.  Well, it *can* but it cannot be enhanced without giving back.

| nature".  I think most of these people should have waited
| until they had at least two years of college under their
| belts before they were permitted to read "Atlas Shrugged":

I only read the post-apocalyptic book she wrote.  I forget the name, but it
was similar to '1984' but with stronger individual vs society overtones.  It
was the inspiration (or one of them, I believe) for Rush's 2112 album of the
same theme.

| they don't seem to understand that the characters in the
| book aren't real, and are actually charactricures, in the
| same way as Socialist government paintings of Stalin,
| looking up and into the future.

I had the opportunity to study Russian when I was a kid, and one of the
genuine Russian school books was fascinating.  It went from 'A is for Apple'
to 'L is for Lenin' in about 20 pages.  By then, the student was expected to
be able to understand the political dissertation that followed just below
the picture.  :-)


Jonathon
--
Microsoft complaining about the source license used by 
Linux is like the event horizon calling the kettle black.

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