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Date:      Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:38:34 -0500
From:      Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
To:        paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com>
Cc:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>, User Questions <questions@freebsd.org>, Trev Roydhouse <trev@sentry.org>
Subject:   Re: When the going gets weird - Mac Mini
Message-ID:  <915C0D91-97D5-49B4-8F23-A69CDEF1A51F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
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On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:37 AM, paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:02=E2=80=AFPM Ian Smith =
<smithi@nimnet.asn.au <mailto:smithi@nimnet.asn.au>> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> It's been too quiet here anyway <&^}=3D
>>=20
>> I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their =
gear.  =46rom most Thinkpad manuals:
>>=20
>> "If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is =
running, and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the =
emergency eject hole. The tray will open."
>>=20
>> cheers, Ian
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> Apple kit used to have the eject hole but it disappeared year =
ago=E2=80=A6not sure if the suppliers stopped making drives with that =
facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to obscure it. I think w/in =
MacOS you can force eject disks w software (diskutll eject might do it).=20=



It used to be that if you held down the mouse button when the system was =
starting up then it would force-eject the disc in the optical drive.  It =
looks like this is still true: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255

(For newer Apple Silicon Macs it looks like you need to boot into =
Recovery Mode and from there you can access Disk Utility, which will let =
you eject the disc.)

Cheers,

Paul.


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">On Mar 1, =
2023, at 10:37 AM, paul beard &lt;paulbeard@gmail.com&gt; =
wrote:<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at =
11:02=E2=80=AFPM Ian Smith &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:smithi@nimnet.asn.au">smithi@nimnet.asn.au</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
It's been too quiet here anyway &lt;&amp;^}=3D<br>
<br>
I guess it's beyond Apple to have almost invisible holes in their =
gear.&nbsp; =46rom most Thinkpad manuals:<br>
<br>
"If the tray still does not open, make sure that the computer is =
running, and insert the end of a straightened paper clip into the =
emergency eject hole. The tray will open."<br>
<br>
cheers, Ian<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>Apple kit used to have the eject hole =
but it disappeared year ago=E2=80=A6not sure if the suppliers stopped =
making drives with that facility or if Apple redesigned the cases to =
obscure it. I think w/in MacOS you can force eject disks w software =
(diskutll&nbsp;eject might do =
it).&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>It used =
to be that if you held down the mouse button when the system was =
starting up then it would force-eject the disc in the optical drive. =
&nbsp;It looks like this is still true:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255">https://support.apple.co=
m/en-us/HT201255</a></div><div><br></div><div>(For newer Apple Silicon =
Macs it looks like you need to boot into Recovery Mode and from there =
you can access Disk Utility, which will let you eject the =
disc.)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Paul.</di=
v><br></body></html>=

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