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Date:      Sat, 30 Nov 2019 10:58:34 -0800
From:      Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r355164 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/amd64/conf sys/conf sys/dev/trm sys/i386/conf sys/modules sys/modules/trm
Message-ID:  <F77D7E9F-E158-4325-9399-D26FFF88F583@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrLMH_RNdd-hQrzGymZ_gjUc6YuqtfJON4muruutNyNxA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201911280232.xAS2WHtb029602@repo.freebsd.org> <41D40355-A16E-48E1-9C11-0C9E42C83A42@gmail.com> <CANCZdfrLMH_RNdd-hQrzGymZ_gjUc6YuqtfJON4muruutNyNxA@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 10:47 AM Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com =
<mailto:yaneurabeya@gmail.com>> wrote:
>=20
> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Scott Long <scottl@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >=20
> > Author: scottl
> > Date: Thu Nov 28 02:32:17 2019
> > New Revision: 355164
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/355164 =
<https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/355164>;
> >=20
> > Log:
> >  Remove the trm(4) driver
> >=20
> >  Differential Revision:       https://reviews.freebsd.org/D22575 =
<https://reviews.freebsd.org/D22575>;
>=20
> Hi Scott,
>         I believe this driver was removed because it was impacts the =
CAM GIANT lock removal effort =E2=80=94 is that true (I=E2=80=99m asking =
because the =E2=80=9Cwhy=E2=80=9D behind the removal is unclear)?
>=20
> Hi Enji,
>=20
> We're trying hard to get rid of all Giant-locked drivers in the tree, =
either by updating or removal. Since sym(4) provides a super-set of =
trm(4) and we have recent-ish reports of sym(4) working, it makes sense =
to trim this driver from the tree. The specific cards it supports aren't =
all that popular, the couple-extra features that trm(4) gave over sym(4) =
aren't really that relevant today, and it's been years since trm has had =
good testing and maintenance.

Warner,
	Thanks so very much for the info :). Glad to see this effort =
taking place, since it=E2=80=99s very needed to modernize FreeBSD and =
improve concurrency in the kernel, as well as reduce the overall =
maintenance burden.
	Keep up the good work :)!
Cheers!
-Enji=



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