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Date:      Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:53:40 +0000
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: CFT: snmalloc as libc malloc
Message-ID:  <9f3273aa-b140-10e7-017a-983b8d2ff51a@FreeBSD.org>
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Hi Waner,

I'm sorry about your experience - I've had similar experiences that have 
caused me to take year-long breaks from the project and I'm sorry if I 
contributed to that for you.  And I definitely deserved at least some of 
the snarkiness - my comments were unhelpful.

Please let me know if there's something I can do to help with the PR 
work.  We have some infrastructure for using GitHub Actions to drive our 
Morello (CHERI + FreeBSD) cluster and we'd happily accept (or, time 
permitting, make) changes that would make it more generally useful.

David

On 12/02/2023 21:57, Warner Losh wrote:
> David,
> 
> Thanks for replying. I do appreciate the offer to help work out a 
> proposal for submodules. That would be quite useful. Technology has 
> improved in the almost 5 years now since we looked at submodules for the 
> first time.  Many of your criticisms have some merit.
> 
> There's not currently a formal working group. I walked away from it 
> because there weren't enough people at the time that wanted to do work 
> and some rather unfortunate comments from some other people (so bad I 
> contemplated leaving the project)... Now that I've mostly recovered from 
> that experience, I've started a more modest pull-request experiment... 
> Moving to submodules is a big project, bigger than I can take on leading 
> at the moment.
> 
> And about my snarkiness... This is still a very sore spot with me, and 
> so I responded to you with more snarkiness than you deserved. I'd like 
> to apologise for that. I'm sorry.
> 
> I'd love to have your input on this, but first we'd need to find someone 
> to project manage things...
> 
> Warner



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