Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:07:55 +0200 From: Michael Elbel <Michael.Elbel@consol.de> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Co=EFdanSm=F8rgrav?= <dag-erli@ifi.uio.no>, torstenb@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Better SNR suggestion for the mailing lists Message-ID: <19980909140755.A24406@consol.de> In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3Cxzplnntldza=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Dag-Erling_Co=EFdanSm=F8rgrav__on_Wed=2C_Sep_09=2C_1998_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?at_01:31:05PM_%2B0200?= References: <2543.904882634@time.cdrom.com> <199809090713.JAA16025@fourier.int.consol.de> <m0zGhq1-0006A4C@onizuka.vmunix.org> <xzplnntldza.fsf@hrotti.ifi.uio.no>
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On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 01:31:05PM +0200, Dag-Erling CoïdanSmørgrav wrote:
> torstenb@vmunix.org (Torsten Blum) writes:
> > Not to mention that there are lots of people who prefer to read mailing-
> > lists via news. There are many good reasons to do so. Killfiles, each
> > mailinglist has it's own group etc.
>
> This is jsut as easy with regular mail, if you use a sensible mail
> reader (e.g. Gnus).
Like I claimed in my original response, it's two things:
- News was created just for such things. Gnus *is* a newsreader. That
you also can use it to read mail (as you could do with nn, e.g.) is
beside the point. Why should people who want to follow high-volume
lists efficiently go through the pains of
- figuring out how to split their incoming mail into different folders
or whatever
- figure out which client to use so they can reasonably follow threads
- figure out how to best go about keeping all of the articles separated
by lists online for a reasonable time (here at ConSol* we keep them
for half ha year - it's way easier to search for something locally
in a newsgroup than through the web interface at www.freebsd.org)
All this happens automagically if you simply gateway the mailing lists
into local newsgroups.
- Bandwidth. Don't underestimate the amount of traffic you can save by
using newsgroups and / or local mail exploders. E.g. if you're privately
connected to one of the local ISPs in Munich, you don't have to subscribe
to most interesting mailing lists at all. You simply read the newsgroups
muc.lists.freebsd.hackers e.g. Much cheaper in connect time than having
to have everything stuffed down your throat before you can decide you're
not interested in a lot of the threads at all.
In an ideal world (TM) we'd long since have a private news hierarchy for
all the FreeBSD lists with local hubs in all major regions of the earth
that handle backbone traffic. From there you could then subscribe for
forward via email, get a news feed or read on the hub via news directly.
Postings would be done either via news for those using news or by a
mail gateway. But I start rambling - I'm fully aware that, at least
at this time, the configuration and maintainance manpower needed to
setup such a thing and keep it running is simply too much compared to
what we have now and how (comparatively) smoothly that works.
Michael
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