Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Zimmermann <ulf@Lamb.net> To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Message-ID: <199608011629.JAA29056@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> In-Reply-To: <199608011516.KAA25748@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from Joe Greco at "Aug 1, 96 10:16:31 am"
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Hmmm, I don't know who moved it to hackers, but I started it in -isp :) Ulf. > > > >The 2503i is a mission critical version, it directly includes the software, > > > >which disables the serial port. You can later buy the full version ($1200 > > > >list price) to upgrade and use the serial ports. > > > > > > Does that include the (required) memory upgrade? > > > > > > So your talking $3000. for a box with 2 serial ports, an ISDN connection > > > and a '386-speed processor? Eeek! > > > > Two T1 ports, ISDN, support for T1 PPP, Cisco HDLC, Frame Relay and > > SMDS. Packet filtering. OSPF, RIP, RIP-2, EIGRP, BGP routing > > protocols (if you need them). Look at the 2524 which has provisions > > for integral 56K DDS or T1 CSU/DSUs to further reduce the system cost. > > > > Plus, you can plug it in and it works. No interrupt vectors, dma > > channels to fool with. Small package. Only a fan for moving parts, > > and no fsck. > > > > Not everyone is willing to spend a lot of time integrating a box when > > you can essentially buy an appliance off the shelf which does a better > > job. Are we going to start this whole discussion again? > > Yes, I agree, the FreeBSD box does a better job. Guys, take it to -chat > or -isp, where people either don't give a rip or don't give a rip, > respectively. > > Point for point, you can match Ciscos and FreeBSD boxes, it's simply a > matter of which colored glasses you put on. Louis will never admit that > a small amount of effort would yield a FreeBSD router that could > outperform a Cisco in terms of performance and reliability, and still > have no moving parts, because Louis is an "out of the box" bigot. Dennis > will take the opposing viewpoint.. > > So, puh-leeze, let's not get into this again... both sides are right, from > a certain point of view. > > ... Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net > Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 Lamb Art Internet Services || http://www.Lamb.net/
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