Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:49:41 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Jahan <jahan@pc.jaring.my>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Inadeqacies in -current (was: Undefined symbol "___error") Message-ID: <19980518174941.Y427@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <3560AD80.BF17AA1B@pc.jaring.my>; from Jahan on Mon, May 18, 1998 at 02:52:00PM -0700 References: <199805122155.QAA04191@unix.tfs.net> <3560AD80.BF17AA1B@pc.jaring.my>
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On Mon, 18 May 1998 at 14:52:00 -0700, Jahan wrote: > Jim Bryant wrote: > >> In reply: >>> Jim Bryant <jbryant@unix.tfs.net> writes: >>>> this has got to be one of the most damnned inconvenient changes i >>>> have ever seen freebsd take... >>> >>> So who forced you to run current? If you don't like this, stick to stable. >>> >>>> does this mean that ALL third party programs that use curses MUST be >>>> recompiled?!?!?! >>> >>> Recompiled, no. Relinked, yes. >>> >>>> just because, as i understand it, they didn't want to bump the lib >>>> version numbers?!?!?! >>> >>> <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook285.html#615>; >>> >>>> does anyone realize how much this change breaks????!!!! >>> >>> Again, this is -current. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the >>> kitchen. >>> >>> BTW, are your ? and ! keys stuck?????!?!?!??!!!! >> >> i understand the meaning of -current... even the one that says some >> idiotic change could bring down 60% of the apps ever written for >> FreeBSD. that is why such changes are made in -current. if such >> changes ever made it to -release, then watch how fast people split the >> fold and go to openbsd, or even linux for fear that anything they >> write will have to be re-released with the very next version of >> -release. >> >> i'll submit a diff tonight/tomorrow that will satisfy the requirements >> for the call without even relinking the target; a do-nothing stub that >> should have been factored in when the original __error was removed. > > Look, no one is pushing us for using FreeBSD.If we use, its our problem or > benefit. Right. > I WANNA STRESS THIS POINT TO MAINTNERS. > > Plz HAVE PROPER DOCUMNET ON HOW TO UPGRADE FROM FreeBSD x.x.x to FreeBSD x.x.x > > We are users ( me alone ?) really having problem upgrading. > > I have mentioned earlier.I had problem compiling from one point of cvsupped files. > I mailed the problem here. > > We ( me alone ?) do not want to spoon fed too, but guideline. You won't even get that. We're doing this for our own fun, not yours. > Even some faq's are not listed in faq ( telnet, ip accounting, lpr, increasing > swap space,sound card). > > Plz do something about that. Why don't you do it? Or would you prefer to pay somebody to do it for you? Those are the only two ways things happen around here. You're right, there are a lot of things that need to be done better. I would also like some better documentation. I'd like more stable software. I'd like more features. I'd also like fewer people who bitch about it and expect to have it handed to them on a platter rather than rolling up their own sleeves and pitching in. If you want to play here, don't try to change the rules until you prove that you can contribute. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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