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Date:      Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:07:27 -0500
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: xdm does not work junder BETA3
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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 29 Nov 2011 03:43, "Aryeh Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I found the problem it never deleted the /var/run/xdm.pid on reboot
>
> Shouldn't /var/run be cleared on boot?
>
> Cc rc, sorry for cross-posting but it seems to be that kind of issue.
>
> Chris
>

Yes in theory the machine should when it does a cold (and this includes the
power/reset button) boot the machine from the moment the processor does
it's very first cycle to the time I type the very first key and/or the
first mouse movement as a fully logged in user (via XDM) using the default
XFCE4 desktop with my default configs means that the when the machine
shutdown it left *ZERO* evidence that it had ever existed... in other words
the default start up (POST --> bootloader --> single user mode --> xdm -->
xfce4) does not need to worry about getting rid of side effects of this....
in the windows world this is done with a program by the name of "Freeze
Dry".... the only problem with Freeze Dry is a) it runs on windows only
(needs a disk formatted and booted with fat32), b) it requires a mirror
drive with the default config to over write and then boot on the active
slice and c) makes it nearly impossible to make "local" changes (actually
it's primary audience is college computer [and other public computer]
labs/sites that need to be able to reboot to the same config no matter what
weird thing the user did).... item c is what makes it hard to use that so
instead the entier start up process should never see any evidence that it
is not the very first OS ever booted on this machine being booted for the
first time



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