Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:18:33 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> To: fredrik@speechcraft.com Cc: jmallett@xMach.org, dscheidt@tumbolia.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010527121833P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105271154420.148-100000@molly.telia.com> References: <20010526152631Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105271154420.148-100000@molly.telia.com>
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> Then how much will OSX then benifit the Unix community as a whole? I The underlying "core" parts, e.g. nothing the typical desktop end-user will probably ever see but a lot of what makes it a powerful networking solution and "classic Unix environment" as well. > but isn't gradual change a la KDE better than just throwing the > standards aside and rolling your own? Both QT and GTK allow for good > component-based programming similar to the MFC, wouldn't an > expansion of the stuff previously written have benefitted both Apple > and the rest of the Unix industry? Is there a way to "re-marry" the > two? Again, Apple is trying to fight a much bigger battle. I think you should spend some time getting better acquainted with Apple's rather unique user base and mindset. It's also the case that in many respects, it's actually the KDE folks who "threw standards aside" and came up with a new programming model. Apple can't afford to do that, and a lot of their Carbon and Cocoa framework is all about providing bridgework for their classic OS 9 customer base. If you write an application to the Carbon API, for example, it will run on both older and newer Macs. That's extremely important to the many ISVs who target the Apple market since they don't want to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars into producing software for just one segment of the Apple community. The programming frameworks provided by Apple also make anything GTK and QT provide look like tinkertoys by comparison. Just spend about an hour with their AppBuilder stuff sometime and see how you can connect stuff graphically to ObjectiveC classes. Very powerful. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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