Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:32:55 -0400 From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-security-local@be-well.ilk.org> To: "Wall\, Stephen" <stephen.wall@redcom.com> Cc: "freebsd-security\@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Old Stuff Message-ID: <444l3bxjew.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <a396546c23af4fdebef755a6a34dbc74@exch-02.redcom.com> (Stephen Wall's message of "Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:29:16 %2B0000") References: <CA%2BQLa9DnEmC0fK81rHGCsuextpN%2BUjMbraUFKBz0DYeDbz%2BTjg@mail.gmail.com> <CAEE%2BrGptj5kotbf3dDGd3p=KJeEPWjhYsvodeyi2UXji=8JHbQ@mail.gmail.com> <a396546c23af4fdebef755a6a34dbc74@exch-02.redcom.com>
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"Wall, Stephen" <stephen.wall@redcom.com> writes: >> From: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> security@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron C. de Bruyn via freebsd- >> security >> Subject: Re: Old Stuff >> >>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:58 AM Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all >>> of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and safer. >>> >>> In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp. >> >> Why remove telnet and FTP? > > Why not? It's not difficult to install ftp as needed from the ports > tree - there are a number of clients and servers available there, > including a newer version of tnftp, which is what appears in freebsd > base. I can't imagine it would be very difficult to migrate the base > telnet to ports, either. It'd be a bit less cruft in the base system > that has to be maintained. That applies to tftp as well. > > Unless the base system is actually using any of them. I don't know that. If I recall correctly, the base has knobs for not building them, so it must work okay without them. I think there would be some complaints if they were moved to ports, but not many. >> From: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> security@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Igor Mozolevsky >> Subject: Re: Old Stuff >> >> On Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Robert Simmons wrote: >> > I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove all >> > of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and safer. >> >> Because nobody has a 32bit computer nowadays??? Similarly, you got any >> empirical evidence to back up the "... safer" part of your speculation? > > I have to agree with Igor here - there are still 32-bit SOCs out there > intended for embedded use. It's likely there are commercial users of > FreeBSD developing for those platforms. Quite a few, in fact. Ditching 32-bit is not a practical idea.
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