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Date:      Wed, 12 Jun 2024 19:42:12 -0400
From:      Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
To:        Bertrand Petit <freebsd-hackers@phoe.frmug.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removing "CMOS clock set to UTC" question
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:14, Bertrand Petit
<freebsd-hackers@phoe.frmug.org> wrote:
>
>
>         It is sad to see an option removed because "it confuse users".

It's not only that it's confusing, it's that there is not much value
in asking the question.

> I agree
> it is broken so we need to fix it: we should make the option's effect obvious
> so that anyone can understand it. I porpose that in place of asking for a UTC
> or local selection we query "what time is it?" instead. Two choices would be
> presented as (live) timestamps, each simultaneously showing the effect of
> UTC/local time CMOS setting would have later on the host's wall clock. The
> task of the user is to select the option matching any external reference he
> sees fit.

This is not the point of the question though -- once we have a
timezone selected and the answer to the UTC question the installer
prompts for the user to set the time; it doesn't really matter what it
was before.. Despite being exactly what the question asks, it isn't
really important whether the CMOS clock is currently set to UTC or
local time. What the installer needs to know is whether the user wants
the real-time CMOS clock to contain UTC or local time.



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