Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 15:39:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: cf94672363d6 - main - rtw88/rtw89: remove local firmware. Message-ID: <CANCZdfrtQRjUaNhAtangNHrkDNvYYOT5ckpfzRtOsxiPYm5Nfg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5325f22d-9e7f-04bd-ab35-128438eb9a2a@FreeBSD.org> References: <202309052116.385LGoau059784@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <d9be0f6a-baed-55f1-5ea1-390e1392a631@FreeBSD.org> <92064p8n-134r-9rqo-8038-rpnq4r25p567@SerrOFQ.bet> <5325f22d-9e7f-04bd-ab35-128438eb9a2a@FreeBSD.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 3:10 PM John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote: > On 9/6/23 12:06 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> On 9/5/23 2:16 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > >>> The branch main has been updated by bz: > >>> > >>> URL: > >>> > https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5 > >>> > >>> commit cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5 > >>> Author: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> > >>> AuthorDate: 2023-06-08 21:35:09 +0000 > >>> Commit: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org> > >>> CommitDate: 2023-09-05 21:13:18 +0000 > >>> > >>> rtw88/rtw89: remove local firmware. > >>> Remove firmware from src/ in favor of the ports/packages and > >>> fwget(8). > >>> This will allow us to shrink the size of src (and installed > modules). > >>> Update the rtw88 man page to reflect the change. > >> > >> How does this interfact with doing an install to a machine over one of > these > >> interfaces? > > > > That's nothing we support. At least we do not support netboot over wifi > > currently, so you'll always need another install media. > > > > How's the "bootstrapping" going to work if wireless is the only network > > option? > > To be clear, I was discussing the case you use a USB memstick, but fetch > the base system and packages over the network. Or at least you need to > install pkg over the network, but you need pkg to install the firmware > so you can bring up the network which you did address, though it seems > something we plan to fix in the future so won't be in 14.0? > Yea, I don't see how this can possibly work on a memstick or any other install media, unless we ship the firmware on the media. Otherwise you don't have the network you need to install the firmware you need for the network... Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 3:10 PM John Baldwin <<a href="mailto:jhb@freebsd.org">jhb@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9/6/23 12:06 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:<br> > On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, John Baldwin wrote:<br> > <br> >> On 9/5/23 2:16 PM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:<br> >>> The branch main has been updated by bz:<br> >>><br> >>> URL:<br> >>> <a href="https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5</a><br>; >>><br> >>> commit cf94672363d6638b7268c05b4628b62bbfc8dbe5<br> >>> Author: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org><br> >>> AuthorDate: 2023-06-08 21:35:09 +0000<br> >>> Commit: Bjoern A. Zeeb <bz@FreeBSD.org><br> >>> CommitDate: 2023-09-05 21:13:18 +0000<br> >>><br> >>> rtw88/rtw89: remove local firmware.<br> >>> Remove firmware from src/ in favor of the ports/packages and<br> >>> fwget(8).<br> >>> This will allow us to shrink the size of src (and installed modules).<br> >>> Update the rtw88 man page to reflect the change.<br> >><br> >> How does this interfact with doing an install to a machine over one of these<br> >> interfaces?<br> > <br> > That's nothing we support. At least we do not support netboot over wifi<br> > currently, so you'll always need another install media.<br> > <br> > How's the "bootstrapping" going to work if wireless is the only network<br> > option?<br> <br> To be clear, I was discussing the case you use a USB memstick, but fetch<br> the base system and packages over the network. Or at least you need to<br> install pkg over the network, but you need pkg to install the firmware<br> so you can bring up the network which you did address, though it seems<br> something we plan to fix in the future so won't be in 14.0?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yea, I don't see how this can possibly work on a memstick or any other install</div><div>media, unless we ship the firmware on the media. Otherwise you don't have</div><div>the network you need to install the firmware you need for the network...</div><div><br></div><div>Warner </div></div></div>
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