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Date:      Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:23:42 -0800
From:      "Chris H" <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com>
To:        "Benno Rice" <benno@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: The future of fortune(6)
Message-ID:  <e5f7b57242353030618d34bc1ad445a9@udns.ultimatedns.net>
In-Reply-To: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:29:46 -0800 "Benno Rice" <benno@FreeBSD=2Eorg> said

> Hello, all!
>=20
> With the removal of the fortune datfiles I think it=E2=80=99s time to hav=
e a
> discussion about fortune(6)=2E
>=20
> fortune now defaults to using a fortune file that no longer exists:
>=20
> $ fortune
> No fortunes found in
> /usr/share/games/fortune:/usr/local/share/games/fortune=2E
>=20
> fortune is still used in the default =2Elogin/=2Eprofile to show entries from=
 the
> still existing freebsd-tips:
>=20
> $ grep fortune /usr/share/skel/*
> /usr/share/skel/dot=2Elogin:if ( -x /usr/bin/fortune ) /usr/bin/fortune
> freebsd-tips
> /usr/share/skel/dot=2Eprofile:if [ -x /usr/bin/fortune ] ; then
> /usr/bin/fortune freebsd-tips ; fi
> $ fortune freebsd-tips
> If you need a reminder to leave your terminal, type "leave +hhmm" where
> "hhmm" represents in how many hours and minutes you need to leave=2E
> =09=09-- Dru <genesis@istar=2Eca>
>=20
> fortune also still has flags for showing offensive entries and the like=2E
>=20
> I would like people=E2=80=99s opinion on which of the following two paths=
 we should
> take:
>=20
> 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage from th=
e
> default =2Elogin/=2Eprofile files=2E
>=20
> 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and make
> freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as
> /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes=2E
>=20
> Personally I lean towards the first option=2E
HooWee! Here we go again=2E=2E=2E :)
IMHO There is no reason to have removed the original fortune(6)=2E
Yes=2E There *were* some (potentially) offensive fortunes=2E *But* you had
to make a conscious decision to 1) turn that option on=2E 2) accepting the
knowledge that they *may* be offensive=2E
Why was there *ever* an issue?!
I pick up a hammer, and place my hand on the kitchen counter=2E I then raise
the hammer=2E Taking careful aim, to ensure that when I bring the hammer down
swiftly=2E It will strike my hand=2E I've done so *knowing* the outcome=2E
See any similarities?
If it's to (hopefully) return, and given the proposed option(s)=2E
I'd like to suggest that fortune be re-instated, using FreeBSD tips as the
default=2E *But* with the option to re-instate the "traditional/classic" fort=
une(s)=2E
Doesn't that make for a win-win situation? :)

Thanks for listening=2E :)

--Chris

>=20
> Thanks,
> =09Benno=2E
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