Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:31:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com> To: Will Andrews <will@csociety.org> Cc: kde@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] Compiling arts in -CURRENT without -pthread Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10309202028530.19227-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com> In-Reply-To: <20030920194827.GN47671@procyon.firepipe.net>
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Will Andrews wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 02:45:02PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > It should probably check for: > > > > 1) PTHREAD_LIBS > > 2) -lpthread > > 3) -lc_r > > Yes, that's what our patch (in testing) does now. > > > No, we don't have libpthread yet. We are waiting > > for ports to catch up to the PTHREAD_LIBS changes > > and then libkse will be renamed back to libpthread. > > If we change it now, some ports may be unbroken > > because they find -lpthread, but yet may still > > half-heartedly support PTHREAD_LIBS. So setting > > PTHREAD_LIBS to something other than libpthread > > won't break the port but will cause it not to > > run correctly (if at all). We also want to be > > able to select any of our threading libraries > > regardless of the existence of -lpthread, so > > falling back to -lpthread should probably only > > happen when building outside the ports system > > (PTHREAD_LIBS not defined). > > > > > Why is FreeBSD not exporting an -lpthread like others seem to be? > > > > To help you guys. Just like removing -pthread ;-) > > Your plan seems to have bumps in it. I suggest a more graceful > approach next time, like announcing to ports@ the removal a lot > sooner, removing it at least a month before any ports freeze, and > generally pushing people to implement things the way you want > them. The way it's gone so far, I'd say -CURRENT users are > suffering the brunt of the problem caused by your abrupt removal > of the -pthread option. Even if they're supposed to be able to > put up with rough waters, it could have been done better anyway. > "We obsoleted -pthread 2 years ago" does not help us, sorry. Not to start an argument, but I have stated my intentions in the past. And not 2 years ago. Things seem to fall mostly on deaf ears until you actually do it. -- Dan Eischen
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