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Date:      Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:57:23 -0700
From:      Xin LI <delphij@gmail.com>
To:        Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
Cc:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r316938 - head/sbin/savecore
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No, this is not the threat model for swaps.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:29:18 +0200, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 01:49:51PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> > Author: ngie
>>> > Date: Fri Apr 14 19:41:48 2017
>>> > New Revision: 316938
>>> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/316938
>>> >
>>> > Log:
>>> >   savecore: fix space calculation with respect to `minfree` in
>>> > check_space(..)
>>> >
>>> >   - Use strtoll(3) instead of atoi(3), because atoi(3) limits the
>>> >     representable data to INT_MAX. Check the values received from
>>> >     strtoll(3), trimming trailing whitespace off the end to maintain
>>> >     POLA.
>>> >   - Use `KiB` instead of `kB` when describing free space, total space,
>>> >     etc. I am now fully aware of `KiB` being the IEC standard for 1024
>>> >     bytes and `kB` being the IEC standard for 1000 bytes.
>>> >   - Store available number of KiB in `available` so it can be more
>>> >     easily queried and compared to ensure that there are enough KiB to
>>> >     store the dump image on disk.
>>> >   - Print out the reserved space on disk, per `minfree`, so end-users
>>> >     can troubleshoot why check_space(..) is reporting that there isn't
>>> >     enough free space.
>>> >
>>> >   MFC after:    7 weeks
>>> >   Reviewed by:  Anton Rang <rang@acm.com> (earlier diff), cem (earlier
>>> > diff)
>>> >   Tested with:  positive/negative cases (see review); make tinderbox
>>> >   Sponsored by: Dell EMC Isilon
>>> >   Differential Revision:        D10379
>>>
>>> The free space calculation is still uselessly conservative, because it
>>> doesn't account for the fact that core dumps will always be either
>>> spare or compressed.  The result is that savecore will frequently
>>> refuse to save corefiles even when there's plenty of space.  I
>>> proposed removing the space check altogether in
>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D2587.  However, I agreed to wait until
>>> after the compressed core dump feature was merged, because then mostly
>>> accurate space checks will be possible.  AFAIK the compressed core
>>> dump feature still hasn't been finished.
>>
>>
>> I had held off on it for a while because it was going to conflict with
>> the work to add encrypted dump support, which of course has finished.
>>
>> The patch to add compression support is here and should largely still
>> work:
>>
>> https://people.freebsd.org/~markj/patches/core-compression/20141110-kern_dump.diff
>>
>> I've been hesitant about pushing it forward:
>> - The dump_write* APIs need some simplification after the addition of
>>   encrypted dump support and support for dumping to 4Kn drives.
>> - I'm not sure how encryption should compose with compression. It seems
>>   intuitively obvious that we should compress before encrypting if the
>>   compression is to be of any use, but I don't know enough to know
>>   whether the compression might somehow compromise the effectiveness of
>>   the encryption.
>>
>> If anyone has some insight on the second of these two points, I'd
>> appreciate hearing it.
>
>
> About compression before encryption there is some information. For example:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRIME
> Openssh removed compression in pre-authentication in
> http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.4
>
> Regards,
> Ronald.
>



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