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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2001 08:32:42 -0600
From:      zwade <zwade@micro-mania.net>
To:        newbies <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ExBSD
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Doug Young wrote:

> >From my point of view (having done a few hundred FreeBSD installs)
> there isn't much to pick from between Windows & FreeBSD installation.
> The difficulty comes trying to configure X / sound / printers / ppp /
> etc.
>
> There are two factors here ... firstly, the original use of unix
> appears to have been as a research / development tool rather than as a
> mass market desktop / gameplaying platform. Developers & other
> assorted geeks will accept horribly user hostile things like vi, lpr,
> X, ppp, etc, that certainly couldn't be described as "user friendly"
> to non-experienced users.  I'm not suggesting FreeBSD can be (or
> should be) suitable for everyone ...  there are even countless "levels
> of enlightenment" within the faithful. I'm quite impressed by its
> performance for webservers etc, but I couldn't imagine using FreeBSD
> in its current form as a workstation. For those of us wanting
> relatively basic functionality, X is a useless poxridden waste of
> space,  vi is an exercise in needless complexity, lpr is an extremely
> messy abortion etc etc.
>

Hello,

I've been resisting the urge to say something.

I can resist no longer.

A couple of days ago I had my first experience with Sed.

It took several hours to read the book, decide the

regular expression syntax to use, write the scripts,

then test them, and then....finally.

YAHOOOOO!!

Damn, I jumped up and down.  I yelled.  I called people on

the phone and told them of this cool thing I had

done.

No, not one of them knew anything about Sed.

They said, "oh? that's nice."  But I knew.

True, it took lots of time to learn.  I don't know

how much time it would have taken to make these global

edits to the dozens of files I changed.

But the euphoric culmination of all those efforts

was far greater than anything I'd ever experienced

with Winblows FAT systems.

Just thought I'd share that with ya.

I've been using Linux for years.  I am now about to

migrate to freeBSD.

Have a nice day!

Z. Wade Hampton

--
My Cyber Space Home page:
http://www.micro-mania.net/zwade

UNIX is the Operating System of choice in Heaven.



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Doug Young wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>From my point of view (having done a few hundred
FreeBSD installs)
<br>there isn't much to pick from between Windows &amp; FreeBSD installation.
<br>The difficulty comes trying to configure X / sound / printers / ppp
/
<br>etc.
<p>There are two factors here ... firstly, the original use of unix
<br>appears to have been as a research / development tool rather than as
a
<br>mass market desktop / gameplaying platform. Developers &amp; other
<br>assorted geeks will accept horribly user hostile things like vi, lpr,
<br>X, ppp, etc, that certainly couldn't be described as "user friendly"
<br>to non-experienced users.&nbsp; I'm not suggesting FreeBSD can be (or
<br>should be) suitable for everyone ...&nbsp; there are even countless
"levels
<br>of enlightenment" within the faithful. I'm quite impressed by its
<br>performance for webservers etc, but I couldn't imagine using FreeBSD
<br>in its current form as a workstation. For those of us wanting
<br>relatively basic functionality, X is a useless poxridden waste of
<br>space,&nbsp; vi is an exercise in needless complexity, lpr is an extremely
<br>messy abortion etc etc.
<br>&nbsp;</blockquote>

<pre>Hello,</pre>

<pre>I've been resisting the urge to say something.</pre>

<pre>I can resist no longer.</pre>

<pre>A couple of days ago I&nbsp;had my first experience with Sed.</pre>

<pre>It took several hours to read the book, decide the</pre>

<pre>regular expression syntax to use, write the scripts,</pre>

<pre>then test them, and then....finally.</pre>

<pre>YAHOOOOO!!</pre>

<pre>Damn, I jumped up and down.&nbsp; I yelled.&nbsp; I called people on</pre>

<pre>the phone and told them of this cool thing I had</pre>

<pre>done.</pre>

<pre>No, not one of them knew anything about Sed.</pre>

<pre>They said, "oh? that's nice."&nbsp; But I knew.</pre>

<pre>True, it took lots of time to learn.&nbsp; I don't know</pre>

<pre>how much time it would have taken to make these global</pre>

<pre>edits to the dozens of files I changed.</pre>

<pre>But the euphoric culmination of all those efforts</pre>

<pre>was far greater than anything I'd ever experienced</pre>

<pre>with Winblows&nbsp;FAT systems.</pre>

<pre>Just thought I'd share that with ya.</pre>

<pre>I've been using Linux for years.&nbsp; I am now about to</pre>

<pre>migrate to freeBSD.</pre>

<pre>Have a nice day!</pre>

<pre>Z. Wade Hampton</pre>

<pre>--&nbsp;
My Cyber Space Home page:
<A HREF="http://www.micro-mania.net/zwade">http://www.micro-mania.net/zwade</A>;

UNIX is the Operating System of choice in Heaven.</pre>
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