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Date:      Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:20:24 -0400
From:      "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net>
To:        Anatole Shaw <shaw@autoloop.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: advisory coordination (Re: SA-02:35)
Message-ID:  <20020806162024.A67456@cowbert.2y.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020806140300.A24745@kagnew.autoloop.com>; from shaw@autoloop.com on Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 02:03:00PM -0400
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On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 02:03:00PM -0400, Anatole Shaw wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 12:08:36PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > What do you propose?
> 
> I think that a policy of issuing "early warning" advisories, as Colin
> Percival extrapolated from my original post, is one right solution.  That
> is, an incomplete advisory is better than no advisory at all, when bug
> details (i.e. patch) are already circulating.

It depends. We have already seen multiple cases where we have had
multiple revisions of the same advisory. I believe 3 of the more
recent advisories were revised due to revisions of the original release.
This makes support hard for the customers; I have had to build world
about 3 times in the last two weeks (tracking RELENG_4_6) whereas
prior to the openssh debacle I lasted a few months without building world.
This is probably worse for the large-installation administrators who
are currently tracking a moving target even with the help of build
farms and build testing. Still, the openssl revision along with the
stdio repatch seems to suggest that we may want to balance haste 
with quality of the patches.

> 
> Some other OS vendors issue advisories that say little more than "hurry up
> and download the patch," but at least those make admins aware that an
> issue exists.  I'd be happy to help make a (better, obviously) "early
> warning system" happen for FreeBSD, if people agree that it's a good idea.
> We're all on the same boat here.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Anatole Shaw
> Autoloop Security Consulting
> http://www.autoloop.com
> 
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-- 
Peter C. Lai
University of Connecticut
Dept. of Molecular and Cell Biology | Undergraduate Research Assistant
Yale University School of Medicine
Center for Medical Informatics | Research Assistant
http://cowbert.2y.net/


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