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Date:      Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:59:58 +1030
From:      Mark Newton <newton@internode.com.au>
To:        zoonie <zoonie@zilch.org>
Cc:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, Rowan Crowe <rowan@sensation.net.au>, aussie-isp@aussie.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [Oz-ISP] Re: TX pro II motherboard
Message-ID:  <20000112105958.J2420@internode.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10001110819020.3390-100000@nak.zilch.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001092207480.9382-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.10001110819020.3390-100000@nak.zilch.net>

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 08:27:40AM -0500, zoonie wrote:

 > they have 1U servers with intel ethernet onboard.  i have some that have
 > the intel chipset.  when you go to their website look for the models with
 > "M" or "N" in the part number....they are really nice machines...you also
 > need to be careful that you order the one with the door on the front if
 > you want the door.  they have some without the door too....
 
Agreed on all points;  Just a testimonial from a satisfied, but unrelated,
customer of Telenet;  we've bought three of their servers and been 
instrumental in our customers buying another four or five, without a 
single glitch.

And yes, they have on-board fxp if you actually order it.  The bottom-dollar
version has an rl, though, which IMHO makes it suitable for an NT server
and just about nothing else (if you're on an NT server the performance
degradation from your rl card will be the least of your problems).

They also all have a PCI/ISA slot, so you can put a RAID card, additional
SCSI host adaptor, or a second ethernet into them.  They make neat and
tidy little firewalls with a second fxp...

    - mark

 > On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Bill Fumerola wrote:
 > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Rowan Crowe wrote:
 > > 
 > > > I have some vague plans to build a low profile server, using a
 > > > (reasonably) standard motherboard which includes everything needed on it.
 > > > Along with a low profile power supply I hope to fit this into a 1 or 2RU
 > > > rack mount case.
 > > 
 > > I bought a telenet (www.tesys.com, I think) 1U machine. They were at
 > > FreeBSDcon and I got to check one of them out there. Cool stuff, haven't
 > > had any problems.  
 > > However the guy at the booth said the onboard ethernet was Intel 
 > > EtherExpress (which was funny, because David Greenman was sitting right
 > > across from them and they had no idea who he was.) and when it came up
 > > it was a: 
 > > 
 > > rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0.
 > > 
 > > This is bad, if you read if_rl.c, you'll see why.

-- 
Mark Newton                               Email:  newton@internode.com.au (W)
Network Engineer                          Email:  newton@atdot.dotat.org  (H)
Internode Systems Pty Ltd                 Desk:   +61-8-82232999
"Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton"  Mobile: +61-416-202-223


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