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Date:      Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:12:12 -0500
From:      Matt Johnson <matt@damnsw.net>
To:        freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: the abi & hardware support
Message-ID:  <l03130300b67ff851a406@[24.95.8.9]>
In-Reply-To: <20010108175455.C30514@urpower.com>
References:  <20010108172507.A874@matter.net>; from durkin%2Bfbsd@matter.net on Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 05:25:08PM -0500 <20010103112508.D27798@rafe.jeamland.net>; <20010102012039.A31690@dragon.nuxi.com> <Pine.WNT.4.31.0101021044590.796-100000@GATECH> <20010102121741.A33602@electricjellyfish.net> <20010103112508.D27798@rafe.jeamland.net> <20010107231752.A442@matter.net> <l03130300b67f65c535d2@[24.95.8.9]> <20010108172507.A874@matter.net>

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>> > I for one would very much like to see FreeBSD for both my Powermac G4 and
>> > my 604e/200 UMAX machine.
>
>I would too. I think a NewWorld machine would be an ideal system  for
>FreeBSD.
>Even though hardware specs are tough to get, it sounds like a lot of other
>projects have been able save a lot of time by looking at Apple's Open Source
>projects, ie. MkLinux, and Darwin.
>
>-rory


I'm not really up on the deal with FreeBSD and it's policy on borrowing
code from NetBSD/OpenBSD...but they do have working bootable PowerPC Mac
ports (which mostly focus on the G3 and up, but it does claim to support
PCI based 604/604e Macs as well).  They seem to have drivers for most of
the core hardware (IDE controller, USB keyboards and mice, CD/DVD drive,
ethernet, etc.) which could probably be used at least as guides for the
people writing the device driver code for the FBSD/ppc port.

I definitely think you should support Macs.  As of now there exist plenty
of people like me (people who own consumer-grade PowerPC Macs and like
using Unix for a home system and whatnot) would definitely consider using
such a port.  And seeing as how the NewWorld Macs appear to be fairly easy
to get booting, it would be very good to see support for them in addition
to embedded machines and non-Mac PowerPC based machines (CHRP, PReP, etc.,
does any still use those types of thing? And what OS is their "native? OS?)




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