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Date:      Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:57:31 -0400
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Newbies <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: URL and Opinions on how to really learn something
Message-ID:  <35DCD40B.65EB9E16@aei.ca>
References:  <35DC550F.3E76A4F3@aei.ca> <19980821082608.23489@welearn.com.au>

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Sue Blake wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Malartre wrote:
> >
> > The main thing I hate with Unix is than there is no standarisation, so
> > you need to read a lot of stuff who do not really matter about such and
> > such situation (exemple: sh vs csh, will I learn both? Do I need to
> > learn both? Also System V vs BSD vs AIX vs HP-UX etc...: they always
> > give a lot of documentation on both way in the same document, this is
> > why my old Oreilly book have 500 pages on Unix, and only ½ of them apply
> > for BSD, if not less)
> > Hope it will help
> 
> You've hit the nail on the head. While there's a lot of resources
> around, it is very difficult to find and select those that are worth
> recommending. A good example is unix guides for beginners. There's
> thousands of them, but which ones are good? Someone who knows
> absolutely nothing about unix can't judge very well, and it takes a lot
> of time to look through a large list of them.
> 
> What should a basic introductory unix guide for new FreeBSD users offer?
> Off the top of my head...
> 
>  - make no assumptions about prior knowledge (or state them up front)
>  - contain no errors
>  - relevant to my system (FreeBSD)
>  - relevant to my configuration (e.g. describes the same shell)
>  - easy to understand, good pace
>  - explain concepts as well as how-to
>  - demonstrate how to use the concepts to expand on learned skills
>  - show how what is learned can be put into daily use
>  - make me feel confident, not stupid
>  - suggest where to go to learn more
> 
> Anything else?
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
A little project to "concatenate" free tutorials from the web, with a
little bit of re-design. I know Unix is supposed to be really open, but
who care of having tcsh, bash, ksh, ash, sh, csh zsh blah blah
blaaaaaaaaaaah! I'm going crazy. 

My dream is a FreeBSD "simulator".
In the Apple Corp way! You start the simulator, then, the black screen
split in two:In the upper screen, there is instruction, in the
downscreen, you try the instruction. A kind of step by step/interactive
way to learn it.
Well, it's a dream, so I think I will return to my C "hello, world"
tutorial.

Finaly, the shell should be sh. I think it's simply "the basic" shell.
---blah blah MS-DOS (sometimes) rocks---
-- 
[Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/]

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