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Date:      Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:41:28 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>,  Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>,  Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>, Mateusz Guzik <mjg@freebsd.org>,  src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
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On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 1:42 PM Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 23:11, Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > An arbitrary formater may leave a
> > little bit of annoyance to each person's taste, but that is a tiny
> > drop in the bucket compared to never having to discuss and especially
> > correct (which may /seem/ helpful but is pretty offputting to
> > newcomers).
>
> As an experiment I ran clang-format over an arbitrary file
> (vtfontcvt.c) and put the results in
> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26340
>
> Relative to the original file there are a few style(9) items that have
> been fixed, a few that have been broken, and some that are arguably
> worse but really indifferent.
>
> Fixed:
> - *_FOREACH now has a space before (, equivalent to for (;;)
>

Except pretty much everywhere we don't have a space there...


> - header sorting
> - space between sizeof and ( removed
> - indentation of an if body
> - unwrapped function call that fits on one line
>
> Broken:
> - indentation of if / for conditions that span 2 or more lines
>
broke all alignment of variables and comments that were done.
broke all err() calls to wrap too much
broke purposely outdented code in statistics function
extra headers still included.


>
> Indifferent:
> - lose lined-up struct members or comments
>

This will cause a huge amount of churn, and is a needless change. It makes
things harder to read. Though this alignment style has been slowly waining
after being popular early on...

The comments moving is a bigger problem for the worse.


> - space vs tab after #define
> - newlines before quoted function arguments
>

Also a problem since it introduces more verticality.


> - function argument wrapping (see write_glyph_buf)
> - leading indentation and args-per-line (print_font_info)
>

An interesting experiment, but there's far more worse after than before.
The rearranging of carefully aligned elements is an especially galling
change for some people (myself included).

Warner


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