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Date:      Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:02:56 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Greg Smith" <gregsmith59@hotmail.com>, finlayson@live.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working 
Message-ID:  <200009212202.QAA62314@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:23 MDT." <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> 
References:  <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com>  <F209GbPn6U9BekWo76U00001332@hotmail.com> <200009212137.OAA01923@mass.osd.bsdi.com> 

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In message <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes:
: No, this is true.  The mobile code sometimes screws up, and attempts to
: re-use an already active resource.  And, it's not just the mobile code.
: Often because FreeBSD has no driver for a particular piece of hardware,
: it's unaware of the resources being used by a piece of hardware (a
: CardBus controller, or an unsupported sound card), so it assumes
: (wrongly) that the resources it is using are free, when in fact the
: hardware is still using the resources despite the fact there is no
: driver for them.

This is much rarer than you make it sound since we've started doing
the PNP BIOS scanning.  There are still several cases where PNP data
is insufficient.  There are also some problems with the pci code where
it doesn't consume IRQs for cards that don't have specific drivers.
This is necessary because the pccard code can't share with them.

So it may happen, but it usually is detected and prevented.

Warner


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