Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:42:25 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> Cc: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Dennis Glatting <dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com>, freebsd-stable@frebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pgm to kill 4.3 via vm Message-ID: <20010507114225.V18676@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105071526410.18102-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:29:48PM -0300 References: <20010507112458.U18676@fw.wintelcom.net> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105071526410.18102-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
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* Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> [010507 11:30] wrote:
>
> How about first analysing the problem in detail and
> trying to fix it after we understand the problem ?
>
> The current stage is that I've pretty much figured out
> the problem and know why the code in FreeBSD and NetBSD
> doesn't currently work (while it would have worked in
> the original Mach VM).
>
> A next stage is getting some smart people together
> and coming up with a thorough solution.
>
> "Patch first, think later" is definately not the
> attitude I'm used to seeing in the FreeBSD world,
> no matter how often you and phk have shouted this at
> me yesterday ;)
No, you're mistaking the Linux methodology with FreeBSD's.
Testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up,
it is perfect.
-- Linus Torvalds
In FreeBSD we submit a patch perhaps after having an N-way
conversation (*) about the problem being addressed. The
patch is then reviewed by several people who familiar with
the subsystems in question.
If you were to submit a patch in the next hour to address this
it would be a matter of several days of load testing and review
before it would be accepted.
I'm are awaiting your patch, and I would be glad to assist you
with it if you have any questions about the vm API.
--
-Alfred Perlstein - [alfred@freebsd.org]
Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.
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