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Date:      Mon, 11 May 1998 22:56:00 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@plutotech.com>
To:        shmit@kublai.com
Cc:        scrappy@hub.org, ken@plutotech.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: serial console w/ SCSI hangs...
Message-ID:  <199805120456.WAA21308@panzer.plutotech.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980511201126.41893@kublai.com> from Brian Cully at "May 11, 98 08:11:26 pm"

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Brian Cully wrote...
> On Mon, May 11, 1998 at 08:14:09PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> > 	I would love to see this...I'm not using DEVFS...what do you mean
> > by SLICE though?  Just that I'll have to change, in fstab, /dev/sd0s1a to
> > /dev/sd0a?  If so, that isn't a problem, since its a dedicated FreeBSD
> > machine with no "slices"...
> 
> SLICE is very related to DEVFS, and neither work at the moment. You should
> contact Julian for more details on that.

	FWIW, Julian has been working on getting SLICE/DEVFS support into
CAM.

> You should only have to change your fstab by replacing all occurences of
> `sd' with `da'.

	Actually, you don't have to do that.  Some of my machines do, and
some don't.  My primary box at work still has /dev/*sd* in /etc/fstab.
It doesn't really matter, but I guess it would help to keep the sd names
if you switch back and forth between regular -current and CAM kernels.

> > 	I'm on freebsd-scsi, and its kinda dead...is there a place that
> > this is better to discuss it on, as well as see patches going through?
> 
> The patches aren't much of anything, just the last snap fitted to -current
> and kept up to date with CVS. You should bug the CAM guys if you want to
> see a new CAM snapshot.
> 
> I'll send you the patches privately. They are NOT in ANY WAY endorsed by
> the CAM team. They're just the patches I'm running to make the old CAM
> snapshot work with -current. It may not even work in bizarre situations,
> but they work for me and haven't noticed any problems, so I expect them
> to be okay.
> 
> But once again, these are NOT OFFICIAL PATCHES. (Hope I've cleared myself
> and the CAM team. :))

	You're clear. :)  We should probably put out patches more often,
but a number of things get in the way sometimes.  Here's a short list..

	- the urge to wait until we get "just one more feature" in before
	  the snapshot...
	- lack of (Justin's) time
	- occasional -current instability

Ken
-- 
Kenneth Merry
ken@plutotech.com

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