Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:47:14 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150409224714.GD96636@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20150409223703.GS8220@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409221632.GB96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409222557.GR8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409223703.GS8220@zxy.spb.ru>
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:37:03AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:28:33AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: S> S> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:25:57AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> > S> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:16:32AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: S> > S> S> > S> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:04:42AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> > S> > S> I am talk not about using or not using utf-8. S> > S> > S> I am talk about unconditionaly forcing switch from non-utf8 to utf-8 S> > S> > S> locale (FreeBSD-11 can be get not only be fresh install but and by S> > S> > S> freebsd-update/source update on the live systems, with bunch files S> > S> > S> witch content in koi8 and named in koi8). S> > S> > S> > S> > If content and names in KOI8 in existing installation block migration S> > S> > to UTF-8, how would you suggest to perform migration to UTF-8? S> > S> S> > S> Just create new login class, russian_utf8. S> > S> Locale is process attribute, not system wide. S> > S> When someone will be ready to migrate and converted S> > S> content/names/configs -- he just change login class. S> > S> If not need -- not changed. S> > S> > When is it going to be made default? S> S> What about you talk? About default locale for Russian users. When is going to be UTF-8 by default if you were planning the migration? S> As I see current default -- no login class, locale "C". No, the current default is UTF-8. The previous was KOI8-R. And this is the topic of our discussion, isn't it? S> I don't see any scrip/tools (in base systems) for creating users and S> ack 'language/locale for user'. I do see. adduser(8) asks explicitly, or you can specify it via -L argument. chpass(1) allows to modify it, if run as super-user. S> I don't like to remove koi8 locale from base systems (at least in 20 S> years) -- you can see discursion in -current about Win95 (created 20 S> yars ago). It isn't removed. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.
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