Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 10:50:51 -0400 From: <kris@ixsystems.com> To: "'Rodney W. Grimes'" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Cc: =?iso-8859-2?Q?'Goran_Meki=E6'?= <meka@tilda.center>, "'Emmanuel Vadot'" <manu@bidouilliste.com>, "'FreeBSD Stable'" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, "'FreeBSD Current'" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base Message-ID: <053101d4fe9a$f1152320$d33f6960$@ixsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <201904291441.x3TEfMid072751@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <CAOwcLsu0n2weeXCxk-8GwW9ApvhQwEsTZjLnap2aU_eLJQ_6dg@mail.gmail.com> <201904291441.x3TEfMid072751@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:41 AM > To: Kris Moore <kris@ixsystems.com> > Cc: Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; Goran Meki=E6 > <meka@tilda.center>; Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>; FreeBSD > Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; FreeBSD Current <freebsd- > current@freebsd.org>; freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org; freebsd- > pkg@freebsd.org; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; = freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base >=20 > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:09 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using = specific > > > > to > > > FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as > > > apart of our CFT. > > > > > > Then please it is "CFT: FreeNAS/TrueOS pkg base, ZFS only", = calling > > > this FreeBSD pkg base when it is not was wrong, and miss leading. > > > > > > > Sorry, I disagree. > Which is fine. >=20 > > This pkg base is independent of the ZFS tool we're using > > to wrangle boot-environments. Hence why it wasn't mentioned in the = CFT. > > These base packages work the same as existing in-tree pkg base on = UFS, no > > difference. If anything are probably safer due to being able to = update all > > of userland in single extract operation, so you don't have out of = order > > extraction of libc or some such. >=20 > You missed the major string change and focused on the edge, > No comment on calling iXsystems :stuff: FreeBSD instead of > FreeNAS/TrueOS? >=20 > That was the major point of my statement, your miss leading the user > community, you yourself said this would never be imported into FreeBSD > base, so I see no reason that it should be called "FreeBSD package = Base", > as it is not, that is a different project. >=20 > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org I think somehow you've missed the entire point here. This is being = brought forth as a FreeBSD CFT in the hopes of upstream adoption. No misleading = here whatsoever. The only thing that I wouldn't expect to be imported into = base was this external tool we use on FreeNAS/TrueOS to handle our specific use-case of ZFS only. Total strawman here. Seriously, suggest you bother looking at it and reading further to get = the full context. If anything this is far less invasive since it doesn't = require lots of hacking on base, and can even be used to package old versions of FreeBSD if desired. The only thing I changed to make these images was a patch to bsdinstall to replace dist-file extraction with 'pkg install userland kernel pkg ...'.
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