Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:59:28 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> Cc: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r288291 - head/etc Message-ID: <658f8bf1-6ded-903f-7469-55bc4b6798fd@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201606191408.u5JE8W5w053656@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <201606191408.u5JE8W5w053656@slippy.cwsent.com>
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On 2016-06-19 16:08, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <4e985ab9-0d98-a160-bdad-fa4924ddc5b3@freebsd.org>, Niclas > Zeising writes: >> >> This is wrong, and how I discovered it. ddb (/etc/rc.d/ddb) starts >> before disks, and currently refuses to start on my systems with this >> issue. This means no crash dumps, unless I remember to manually start >> it later in the boot process, so this is an issue. > > ddb isn't a daemon. It's an interface into the kernel that configures DDB > properties. It runs and completes. And, yes, it is affected by limits not > being found in the path. I think I misunderstood what you mean, I thought you meant nothing is affected by this. Apologies for that. > > My point is, since there are no daemons, as per the definition of a daemon > (processes that become daemons and run in the background) prior to the > filesystems being run, to say that there would be differing systems > behavior before and after filesystems are started is presently false > (though technically true because one day we might have daemons started > before critical filesystems are mounted). Agreed. I understand if we are too late in the release cycle for 11 to move limits to /bin, which seems like the best solutions. Are there any other reasons not to move /usr/bin/limits? I wanted to bring this to attention, since it seems noone else has noticed it, or cared enough about it. It is nothing that stops me from using FreeBSD, I will just have to remember to start ddb manually, or run the commands in case of a panic. Regards! -- Niclas
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