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Date:      Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:36:21 -0800 (PST)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
Cc:        Archie Cobbs <archie@dellroad.org>, Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ip_output and ENOBUFS
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0203271034290.43629-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <15522.2882.479989.695082@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

> 
> Archie Cobbs writes:
>  > Luigi Rizzo writes:
>  > > > Is if_tx_rdy() something that can be used generally or does it only
>  > > > work with dummynet ?
>  > > 
>  > > well, the function is dummynet-specific, but I would certainly like
>  > > a generic callback list to be implemented in ifnet which is
>  > > invoked on tx_empty events.
>  > 
>  > Me too :-)
>  > 
>  > > The problem as usual is that you have to touch every single device
>  > > driver... Fortunately we can leave the ifnet structure unmodified
>  > > because i just discovered there is an ifindex2ifnet array which is
>  > > managed and can be extended to point to additional ifnet state that
>  > > does not fit in the immutable one...
>  > 
>  > Why is it important to avoid changing 'struct ifnet' ?
> 
> To maintain binary compatability for commercial network drivers.
> 
> Currently, network driver modules built on 4.1.1 work on all versions
> of FreeBSD through 4.5-STABLE.
> 
Not QUITE true..

they ar ebroken in some cases for 4.4 amd 4.5 due to a renumberring 
of SYSINIT orderings, but I fixed that and they should work in 4.6
again..  I know we hit it here with some cards we have..
I just made a small patch in teh local trees to allow us to use them.

Some cards may not hit this problem.


> 
> Drew
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