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Date:      Mon, 17 Apr 1995 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        jrb@cs.pdx.edu (James Binkley)
Cc:        terry@cs.weber.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: support for Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapters?
Message-ID:  <199504172021.NAA09962@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <199504172010.NAA14591@sirius.cs.pdx.edu> from "James Binkley" at Apr 17, 95 01:10:29 pm

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Him Jim!

> This is extremely important if possible.  E.g., a lot of current
> radio lan hardware is only going to have the following driver-types...
> 	.odi-client
> 	.odi-server
> 	.ndis
> 	.pkt if you are lucky
> 	.maybe unixware
> 	.just maybe sco
> A few years ago I did some work for Intel vis-a-vis NCR wavelan.
> In general they weren't about to release their src or do anything
> other than ODI, etc.  Pretty typical for esoteric lan cards in
> the pc market.  

There is source code for the NCR wavelan card in Mach.  Though most
vendors do what you state, your sited example was a bad one :-(.

> 				regards,
> 				Jim Binkley
> 				jrb@cs.pdx.edu
> Your message <9504171621.AA08143@cs.weber.edu>:
> >>  > On the other hand, I have suggested many times that the loadable
> >>  > kernel modules should have their loader code in the kernel, and
> >>  > this is one example why: to enable demand loading in a general
> >>  > case seperate from consideration of the symbol tables to enable
> >>  > the loading od Novell ODI drivers for servers.  These are protected
> >>  > mode driver that exist for nearly all ethernet and many token ring
> >>  > and other odd cards.
> >>  > 
> >>  > That UnixWare does it proves it is possible.  Kurt Mahon has hinted
> >>  > that he might be able to get some of his code for this released.
> >> 
> >> Do you mean that we can get hold of ODI drivers (binaries) and used them
> >> under FreeBSD?
> >
> >Yes, if:
> >
> >1)	They could be loaded into kernel memory.
> >
> >2)	Their external symbols are appropriately resolved.
> >
> >Both of these require knowledge of the binary file format.
> >
> >Kurt Mahon is the engineer who wrote the code for UnixWare.
> >
> >
> >					Terry Lambert
> >					terry@cs.weber.edu
> >---
> >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> >or previous employers.
> 


-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                   Custom computers for FreeBSD



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