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Date:      Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:02:57 +0100
From:      Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To:        Adrian Penisoara <ady@warpnet.ro>
Cc:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org
Subject:   Re: MP downliks problem (was Re: PPP dying with signal 10) 
Message-ID:  <199910280702.IAA00836@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Adrian Penisoara <ady@warpnet.ro>  of "Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:51:39 %2B0300." <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910262048290.12818-100000@ady.warpnet.ro> 

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> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This should now be fixed too :-)  It's amazing how much testing 
> > > > things don't get 'till just after I put them in -stable and a release 
> > > > happens :-/
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >  One more problem discovered in Multilink mode: if both links fall down
> > > simultaneusly then, after reconnect, one of the end (usually the oposite
> > > end) gets confused and no replies get sent over the wire. A "down" in the
> > > control prompt gets the situation back to normal (probably because a
> > > renegociation is implied) -- could you please investigate this ?
> > > 
> > >  Thanks, I'll try the newest version as soon as possible,
> > >  Ady (@warpnet.ro)
> > 
> > Can you send me some relevant logs ?
> 
>  Can't find any interesting things in the logs, but the situation is
> easily reproductible, see above. Any hints what log levels I should be
> watching ?
> 
>  One thing is sure: forcing a renegociation through "down" (including a 
> "reset" at the mp level) gets things back to normal.

I think I'm misunderstanding at least some of the problem.  I'm 
assuming the following:  You have a two-link ppp session with ppp(8) 
running in -direct mode.  You then reset both modems and ppp exits.  
The client dials again (twice) and has problems establishing the 
connection because no ``replies'' are sent by one side or the other.

What sort of replies are we talking about here ?  If they're LCP or 
IPCP replies, I need a log with something like

  set log command lcp ipcp phase

If they're missing ``replies'' from the application level, then

  set log command lcp ipcp phase tcp/ip

would be more in order.

ady@warpnet.ro said:
>  Oh, and another thing: the client accuses that every few hours the
> traffics starts to slow down up to the point where he needs to restart
> the PPP process -- this I can't very well trace but it may be related
> to what I told you... 

This sounds like a modem that likes to renegotiate the link speed 
when the line gets bad but never renegotiates up.  I would suggest 
doing some tests with the pings' round trip times.

> > Cheers.
> > 
> 
>  Thanks,

-- 
Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>                        <brian@FreeBSD.org>
      <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;                   <brian@OpenBSD.org>
Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour !          <brian@FreeBSD.org.uk>




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