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Date:      Fri, 10 May 2013 09:55:15 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Cc:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, attilio@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r250411 - in head/sys: conf kern sys
Message-ID:  <518D2673.4010109@mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <405C7C78-A626-4836-BD90-16FD08DD3196@xcllnt.net>
References:  <201305091628.r49GSI33039873@svn.freebsd.org> <CAJ-FndBY%2ByuUdvO4zP3kf2W4gDvB-uih19bqdmkFW3E4NcrHtw@mail.gmail.com> <CC06FD75-868C-40B3-9C10-D66B56327803@xcllnt.net> <201305100952.45101.jhb@freebsd.org> <405C7C78-A626-4836-BD90-16FD08DD3196@xcllnt.net>

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On 5/10/13 8:46 AM, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>
> And all I did is to allow someone (= Juniper) to not print the LOR
> for this well-known and mostly ignored case that is impacting our
> ability to keep witness enabled. And the reason I had to do that is
> that this is a long-standing LOR that isn't being addressed. The
> FreeBSD community apparently has settled on just ignoring it.


This whole issue about not allowing developers to mute warnings stems 
from some FreeBSD developers inability to imagine that they are not 
locus of architecture at an organization.

We really need to gain the ability to put ourselves in the shoes of 
someone that is just one of MANY people working on a product, a product 
that can choose its platform, FreeBSD, or if FreeBSD fails, then Linux 
or whatever works.

Allowing people to customize and/or mute these error messages, when they 
are often superfluous is good.  It allows the team to work on the parts 
that they need to work on and ignore the noise from other broken parts 
of FreeBSD that will eventually be fixed by the community.

If FreeBSD is supposed to be for the community, then why does it have 
portions (WITNESS/INVARIANTS/etc?) that are not for the community?

-Alfred





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