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Date:      Wed, 21 Sep 2022 01:58:34 +0100
From:      Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Good practices with bectl
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From: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: Good practices with bectl
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 21/09/2022 01:47, Graham Perrin
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>On 20/09/2022 23:14, Nuno Teixeira wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hello to all,</div>
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          <div>I will use becl for the first time for current upgrades.</=
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          <div>Just to check that I'm thinking correctly:</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Create a test environment for upgrade:</div>
          <div>&gt; bectl create -r test (should I use '-r'?)<br>
          </div>
          <div>Activate test:</div>
          <div>&gt; bectl activate test</div>
          <div>&gt; reboot<br>
          </div>
          <div>...</div>
          <div>&gt; upgrade OS on test</div>
          =E2=80=A6<br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      If using freebsd-update(8) to perform the upgrade: please be aware
      that, with recent releases of the OS, there's automated creation
      of a snapshot of a boot environment. <br>
      <p><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href=3D"https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dfreebsd-update.conf&a=
mp;sektion=3D5&amp;manpath=3DFreeBSD"
          moz-do-not-send=3D"true">&lt;https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cg=
i?query=3Dfreebsd-update.conf&amp;sektion=3D5&amp;manpath=3DFreeBSD&gt;</=
a>,
        CreateBootEnv</p>
      <p>Omitted from release notes; sorry. <br>
      </p>
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    <p>True: no freebsd-update for CURRENT, however I'm raising
      awareness of the automation. (My own experience: a habit adopted
      with CURRENT might be accidentally repeated with RELEASE.)</p>
    <p>For updates/upgrades to CURRENT: I do prefer to create, activate
      then boot an environment before installing. <br>
    </p>
    <p>----</p>
    <p>With the alternative (a snapshot that's not active), and a
      Default boot environment, things can become confusing when the
      preferred environment is no longer Default, especially if (in rare
      situations) Default becomes no longer bootable. Need to think
      _very_ carefully about names and the appropriateness of renaming.
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